Setting up a matrix homeserver for the social dot coop
Hi all! I want to set up a matrix homeserver for social.coop. I've been meaning to play around with matrix for awhile now, and this seems like the perfect opportunity to do so. I was planning on just selfhosting it myself, since the server costs are free, but I'd need to get a subdomain pointed at my ip and i'm not sure who I should talk to about that. I was thinking either chat.social.coop or matrix.social.coop, although I don't really have a preference.
As for the financial aspect, I'm more than happy to host it for free for now, since it doesn't cost me anything besides the time it takes to set it up and I wanna learn the nitty gritty of the matrix protocol anyways. If it blows up and everyone starts using it, we can figure out a more permanent hosting setup then, but there's not much of a point in hashing all that out before we even know if people will use it.
ps: this is my first loomio thread and i'm still gettin the hang of it, so apologies if i forgot to do something or did something wrong.
Poll Created Fri 11 May 2018 12:21AM
possible sub.domains to host a matrix homeserver at. Closed Fri 11 May 2018 10:01PM
chat.social.coop got 5 votes, not sure what that means tho
Results
| Results | Option | Rank | % of points | Points | Mean | ||
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chat.social.coop | 1 | 33.3% | 10 | 3.3 | ||
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matrix.social.coop | 2 | 30.0% | 9 | 3.0 | ||
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riot.social.coop | 3 | 23.3% | 7 | 2.3 | ||
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gossip.social.coop | 4 | 13.3% | 4 | 1.3 | ||
| Undecided | 0% | 0 | 0 |
3 of 20 people have participated (15%)
Matt Noyes Fri 11 May 2018 3:33PM
| 1 - riot.social.coop | ||
| 2 - matrix.social.coop | ||
| 3 - chat.social.coop | ||
| 4 - gossip.social.coop |
This is great. This is a collective effort, so it should be clear that admin decisions should be made in this working group. Also, it seems good to put this to the membership, both to advertise it and because it is a change to our infrastructure.
greg Fri 11 May 2018 12:28AM
wait, the poll is for three days? cause getting this up and running was kinda my plans for the evening haha. maybe I could just get a subdomain for testing, and then switch it over to the winner once the poll's done? that should be enough time to work out any kinks with federating and stuff, too
Liaizon Wakest Fri 11 May 2018 12:44AM
it was just the default time for poll length. I assume we can change it.
Liaizon Wakest Fri 11 May 2018 12:48AM
yeah I just changed it. can be anytime.
Michele Kipiel Sat 12 May 2018 10:42AM
Just remember to share the result of the poll as soon as it's done! :)
Darren Fri 11 May 2018 1:10AM
I really like matrix and have been using it a lot over the last two years.
I am not sure that running a server is a great idea at the moment. The
folks at disroot.org and weho.st both provide various free web services
but I am pretty sure that for both of them looking after matrix takes
much more time than all the time they spend on all the other services
that they offer combined. Also takes a fair bit of server resources to
run once the users build up a bit and time passes - the database gets
BIG and IIRC it also needs a surprising amount of RAM.
Think it tends to be problems due to the huge number of users on
matrix.org, also the many IRC channels (some with loads of users) which
are bridged into the matrix network via that homeserver to users
elsewhere. If there are issues at matrix.org and federation slows other
servers really suffer when it picks up the pace again.
Maybe worth having a chat with them about your idea, they are all super
helpful and friendly - #disroot:disroot.org (realitygaps one of the
folks behind weho.st also hangs out there)
Mayel de Borniol Fri 11 May 2018 10:11AM
I set up a matrix server once, and found that there's was a combination of fiddly tricks that allowed to host matrix on a subdomain like matrix.domain.com but have the usernames be on the main domain @user:domain.com
Seems like it would be worth trying to do this, and also hooking this up with our membership database/app so that members have the same username on Matrix as they have on Mastodon.
Liaizon Wakest · Fri 11 May 2018 12:22AM
Totally down to help with this in anyway I can.