Integration with Slack

Nice to meet everyone.

Hi ! I know this thread is old, I was wondering if a mattermost integration would be available for Loomio nowadays ? Me and my team would like to use Loomio via Mattermost

https://www.loomio.org/slack is probably the thing you want

is there documentation anywhere about the loomio slack integration? - we are planning to upgrade loomio to enable us to use this - but would like a bit of info to share with others about how this works... thanks

?? @gdpelican @robertguthrie hope you are appropriate people to tag ;-)

Thanks for the confirmation @jameskiesel and I hope the question didn't sound like an inquisition ;) I asked because I found myself about to claim, in a comment on the consultation group for the new NZ GOAL Software Edition policy, that Loomio was an example of a company that is successfully commercializing their software without using an "open core" strategy. I felt pretty certain that was the case, I just wanted to be absolutely sure I wasn't providing inaccurate information in a formal consultation.

Thanks too to @gregorycassel for your clarification. The NZOSS instance was only set up recently, so I imagine its the current version, but to be honest I've only played with it a couple of times. As I say, I haven't actually used Slack, and although I've had a look at the hompage and their pitch video, I guess I'm still not certain what this class of application does and doesn't include.

The code for the slack integration is open source and always will be, and I have spent some time recently which will allow it to communicate with any type of webhook endpoint, not just slack's.

@richarddbartlett @alanna @jonlemmon and the rest else from the Loomio team might have something to say about the above comment too. If you think this deserves its own thread, feel free to delete this comment and repost it as the context for a new thread.

Hey @matthewbartlett, I've been reading about Oracle taking MySQL, software that was previously 100% free code, and making some of its components proprietary, so they are only available in its commercial "Enterprise Edition". This is known as an "open core" strategy, and its one of the bad things that happen to free code projects that get swallowed by corporates ("acquired"). It's a way of outsourcing a certain amount of development work to the free code community, without giving back on an equal basis.

I advocate that the software made by companies that use "open core" strategies be strategically forked, and the fully free code version made better than the "Enterprise Edition" as quickly as possible. This way, software companies will learn that free code contributors are not a "human resource" they can exploit for private profit, and only companies that release all their code can benefit from the work of the free code community and survive commercially. To me, this is essential self-defence for the free code and open source movements, and a key part of the strategy against openwashing.

So, before I start lobbing rhetorical missiles at Oracle for dragging its drift nets and bottom trawlers through our communities, I just wanted to check that putting Slack integration on the paid plan doesn't mean that you are withholding the source code, or putting it under a proprietary license. I'd hate to see an inspiring, mission-driven cooperative like Loomio drinking the "open core" kool-aid.

EDIT: fixed typo

Sorry I neglected to reply before here @strypey . FWIW Rocket Chat is definitely, totally a Slack alternative in terms of features. (Dunno if the NZOSS version you used before was similar to current versions.)

I think the main questions about Rocket Chat vs. Slack are in stabililty and performance across various devices.

On a somewhat related note, super glad the Loomio webhook for Slack is open source. :)

Ae, WebRTC is a newish open protocol for semi-P2P audio/video chat, originally developed at Google. When I tried out the NZOSS instance of RocketChat, I couldn't really see anything other than a chat platform. I haven't used Slack or Mattermost, but my understanding is that they include a lot more functions than that, so I'm not sure if calling RocketChat a "Slack alternative" is any more accurate than calling meet.jit.si a "Slack alternative".