Naming and expressing the group ideology

I am mindful of the Sovereign Accountable Commons that MetaCurrency describes. http://metacurrency.org/about/ and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEQ9dTzs_uI for example. For me this work is also about the promise of efficiency gains from network production rather than factory production methods. I lean toward economikit, which it seems like Pospi liked since that is thee name here.

Good thoughts.

"Being independent and autonomous (which I would say are key aspects of sovereignty) is attractive to them, too."

I think this hits home in particular with communities/collectives. Sometimes all they need are basic tools to build their own micro-economies without being extracted from or influenced.

On this topic, check out Gandhi's book titled 'Hindswaraj'. It's from his younger days, so a bit radical, but he spoke about the importance of technology liberating humans as opposed to monetising them. His views on technology/Industrialisation got more nuanced over the years.
It spawned of economic principles, some of which were captured in 'The Economy of Permanence' by J C Kumarappa, and 'Small is Beautiful' by Schumacher.
Sacred Capital's been directly infuenced by one of our mentors, Rajni Bakshi who wrote 'Bazaars, Conversations and Freedom'. In the book, she highlights the importance of decentralised commerce, that was inter-woven with social fabric, as opposed to a sterile 'market' that is removed from human-ness. She would be very interested in supporting our little collective here.

Interested! please link (:

I also think there's a conversation worth having around de-colonized mindsets. For me, growing up in India meant constantly having to switch between identities.
I also found myself guilty of romanticizing my 'un-colonized' identity, which can be tricky if left unchecked.

I think you might resonate with some of Gandhi's writings on 'Swaraj'. It was loosely translated as 'self-rule' during the Independence struggle, but its roots run deep. As a concept, it's meant to represent an understanding of one's potential (spiritual or otherwise) and building a value framework around it. There's also some literature around building economic systems and technology with this approach (I can point you to some resources - they intersect with Sacred Cap's roots).

I've been talking to my Indigenous friends about "sovereignty" as a concept... it's a difficult one to pull off.

If we're going to take that route, then we need to be really really careful to differentiate "our" idea of sovereignty (as predominantly Western, predominantly White technologists) from Indigenous people's ideas of sovereignty. We would especially need to call out that these are distinct and different struggles, and that the struggles Indigenous peoples have faced in fighting for their sovereignty are far more grave and serious than anything that many of our adopters may call "sovereignty".

There might be a qualifier that can be applied here to tease this out... "individual sovereignty" could be a part of it but, duh... that's too individualistic :P ...perhaps "universal sovereignty"?

No conclusions to make, just things to consider. At a minimum we'd need to have some BIPOC peeps included in this group before using language like that publicly.

I like that, and my preference leans towards "sovereignty". This work is pushing me towards collaborations with marginalised and indigenous peoples... it is crystal clear to me that these are the kinds of projects we need to be doing if this work has any real hope of addressing planetary collapse. There is a way that collaborating with Western groups could lead towards broken "one size fits all" solutions... the mindset is wrong (and we already tried that, it's called Colonialism and it doesn't work). We need projects that are sensitive to the need for nuance and place-based solutions.

I also think this can be marketed in a way that creates a softer image that traditional businesses can align on. Being independent and autonomous (which I would say are key aspects of sovereignty) is attractive to them, too.

I've been giving some thought to this, and the ideologies that stands out for me are sovereignty or agent-centricity. I see the two as closely related. I also think they represent the approach that Holochain is giving birth to.
From a marketing or branding pov, we can use simpler terms of course.

That's a good point. It could be a two pronged strategy. Super simple language for our users but showcases the deeper vision to funders and advocates who will want to support us.

I think the branding shouldn't just focus on communities, where small and medium business might feel threatened, the https://www.xero.com/au/ branding is good because it's benign.

It just does accounting. And we do to, we just measure more things and make the data mean more things and have feedback loops at different stages.

Xero is attractive for organisations and if we want fast transition we should also be attractive for organisations. I'm just saying we should also be mindful of that appeal. :)