Organizing Circle Meeting: 2024 3 July (Wednesday) 1200 UTC
To-Do List
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Kathe:
Recaps to the minutes page, wiki thread, and social 2024 thread /
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Kathe: Draft operations guide for OC wiki page
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Kathe: Draft operations circle intro OC wiki page
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Kathe: Draft decisions and agreements page
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Matt: Create the wiki page for OC and Policy
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Matt: reach out to Eduardo and Jaime/Jamie to move May 1st discussion https://www.loomio.com/d/Yxz1ZqPR/conversation-with-mayfirst
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Matt: write up OC origin story (from original proposal and sortition docs)
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Matt: ask Loomio people about best way to link to multiple threads (for OC minutes)
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Matt: check with Josh to see what non-OC people can see/access
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Flancian:
[TWG] Determine+drive next steps towards increasing the character limit in the instance.
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Flancian: [TWG] Talk to Darius Kazemi about sustainability of Hometown in particular w.r.t. security updates
Marie:
Agenda, reminder, to-do list
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Marie: Message Loomio with list of OC members > pinned message at the start of the (open to all) Loomio recap thread
MarieVC (social.coop/@MarieVC) Thu 27 Jun 2024 11:41AM
Dear All,
You will find above the structure of the agenda and the to-do list for our next OC meeting. The yellow sections are to be consented to at the start of the meeting.
@Kathe TB I've divided the to-do list from the agenda. Is that better for you? What would you recommend? For context, @Matt Noyes had asked for the to-do list to be at the top of the thread, to make it easier to find.
I'll be sending a reminder on Social.Coop on Monday 1 July.
See you next week!
Kathe TB Tue 2 Jul 2024 12:35PM
@MarieVC (social.coop/MarieVC) Ok thinking about this a bit since I got the day wrong (again) for our meeting despite your very timely and appreciated messages. (I THINK I got my calendar updated with the right time this week!
This wasn't quite what I was thinking but I actually really like it. What do you think about breaking this into three separate 'comment's: ToDo; Agenda; Backlog items. I like posting the agenda first instead of the ToDo items but I agree now that pulling the ToDo items OUT of the agenda makes the agenda easier to read. I can live with the ToDO items being at the top :)
Thoughts?
Matt Noyes Wed 3 Jul 2024 3:09AM
@MarieVC (social.coop/MarieVC) Can we add a quick point: to review these diagrams made by Melissa Santos?
Kathe TB Tue 2 Jul 2024 12:04PM
Current Loomio threads for OC:
Annual rhythms https://www.loomio.com/d/BtVCdq01/annual-rhythms-of-organizing-circle-
Compensation and effort tracking https://www.loomio.com/d/I1KJoBY4/compensation-in-organizing-circle
OC membership and expansion https://www.loomio.com/d/TqwLjKsc/expanding-organizing-circle
Inspiration and lessons learned from MayFirst https://www.loomio.com/d/Yxz1ZqPR/conversation-with-mayfirst
Wiki pages for decision logs https://www.loomio.com/d/kuVrqiLv/wiki-page-for-organizing-circle
Decisions that need to be ported over to wiki:
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Kathe TB Tue 2 Jul 2024 12:28PM
I'm going to give a stab at organizing some of the backlog items below
Backlog items
The items below are not on the active agenda but should be addressed at some point in the future:
Strategy questions
Long term goals of operation (growth vs stewardship of mastodon instance vs community building vs ...)
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Financing priorities and framework for setting these
How do we provide a framework for the Finance WG to budget overall and help manage surplus?
How do we deal with liability as an organization? Do we need to consider some kind of incorporation or legal entity? If so where?
Operations question
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Maintenance of care
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How to support Tech working group and its members (cf. xy crisis driven by single maintainer)?
Should we offer bug bounties?
Set up meeting with tech working group
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How to support community moderation?
Set up meeting with community working group
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How do we support community governance involvement?
Should there be a SC newsletter?? (like GEO newsletter)
Inspiration and lessons learned from MayFirst https://www.loomio.com/d/Yxz1ZqPR/conversation-with-mayfirst
How many people engage in what category/dimension? https://wiki.social.coop/wiki/Organizing_Circle_policy#Description_of_social.coop_member_types
What do our members expect?
What is our current financial picture?
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What is our current volunteer burden?
Compensation and effort tracking https://www.loomio.com/d/I1KJoBY4/compensation-in-organizing-circle
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Process development
Ask working groups for TWO reps instead of one.
OC membership and expansion https://www.loomio.com/d/TqwLjKsc/expanding-organizing-circle
Check in on group condition, engagement level, look at moving forward with (a)synchronous engagement
Loomio OC Group private/public https://www.loomio.com/d/Vt7LCaPM/using-loomio-for-our-group
Ask for training on 'what it means to be an admin' to orientate new admins
Annual patterns https://www.loomio.com/d/BtVCdq01/annual-rhythms-of-organizing-circle-
Wiki pages for decision logs https://www.loomio.com/d/kuVrqiLv/wiki-page-for-organizing-circle
Decisions to be reviewed in the future
October 2024 (2 decisions up) - https://wiki.social.coop/wiki/Organizing_Circle_policy
Kathe TB Wed 3 Jul 2024 3:41PM
Notes
1200 [5 min] ADMIN
Who is here? Caitlin, Kathe, Matt, Eduardo
Does anyone need to leave early?
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Confirm our next call on 17 July (Wednesday) 1200 UTC
17th Marie out, Eduardo maybe out
Kathe will send reminder
Reviewrecapfromlastcall
https://www.loomio.com/d/RtGvSgIJ/organizing-circle-meeting-2024-19-june-wednesday-1200- utc
Who is note taking? Matt
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Who is facilitating? Kathe
1205 [10 min] Check in:
• How are you showing up today? What are you bringing into the space?
[https://www.nycnvc.org/feelings]
1215 [10 min] Agenda construction (potential items, topics discussed at previous meetings, work in
progress):
Wikifollow-up?https://www.loomio.com/d/kuVrqiLv/wiki-page-for-organizing-circle
Visits to WG (planning)?
SeethedifferentLoomiothreads(OrganizingCircleGroup):
Backlogitemshttps://www.loomio.com/d/xUDqgTRa/organizing-circle-meeting-2024-3-july- wednesday-1200-utc/4
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Review diagrams of social.coop
Notes:
meet with working groups • reviewadminonboarding
• do for OC members, communicate via message board
membership of OC - get new people on board sooner rather than later
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how is the onboarding experience for new SC members? How to make it simpler, more
interesting?
how to make work that keeps SC running more visible?
• how to distribute the work among SC members? (volunteer opportunities)
kanban for project management for our work?
wikiupdates
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periodic public workshops on cooperation and cooperative principles and practices
• how can we bring SC more into co-op status/world -- how can we better cooperate, function as a cooperative?
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FOUR TOPICS for today • meetingswithWGs
• adminonboardingresources • reviewwikiasitstands
• consider vision/mission/values on wiki
1225 [5 min] Updates: What is the status of your to-do items? Can someone help you?
• Call a round to check in with people https://www.loomio.com/d/xUDqgTRa/organizing-circle- meeting-2024-3-july-wednesday-1200-utc/0
1230 [5 min] Updates from working circles
Finance - no updates
Tech-MIA
Community - no updates (meeting tomorrow)
Legal - defunct
1235 [5 min] Update: What was said by the group in active Loomio threads. Do we need to respond to anything or integrate something into our discussion? - nothing to report
1240 [30 min] Items to be consented at the start of the meeting
• meetings with WGs
Catilin set up meeting with Finance group, same as OC time slot, if possible
Matt set up meeting time with CWG people
Eduardo will ask Flan about update and how to meet with TWG
aimtohaveallmeetingsbeforeSept.
Ask each WG to map their work (tasks?) along level of knowledge and time required (in total).
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admin onboarding resources
tech--
community - Matt ask Sam for latest material and links location...
requires walk through
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Matt, Flan, Caitlin talk about possible tech stack workshop
for people with admin roles, for group members as a whole
tech stack workshop
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possibleworkshops:
Review of Social.Coop Mastodon interface for OC members
how CWG ops people moderate Social.Coop: emphasis on criteria
how admins use the Mastodon admin interface
the Social.Coop tech stack and how we use it
• admin of each
• make videos that can be used by new people
• reviewwikiasitstands
• https://wiki.social.coop/wiki/Organizing_Circle • Add
summary of purpose
process of membership
annualrhythmsection
• totend/updateandmaintaintheinformationhere
• othermainlandmarks/events
do we want links organized at end of para (instead of mixed in text)
add implicit links
links to stream items (loomio, matrix)
annualreport/milestones
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keep
recaplinksatthetop
agendastructure
Good writing style
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consider vision/mission/values on wiki
• https://wiki.social.coop/wiki/Bylaws
1310 [10 min] Tasks: What are you taking out of this call as a task or todo item?• Kathe:
Recaps and synthesis
backlog comment in new agenda
Move links in wiki
construct proposals for wiki update and annual rythem agenda item
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meetingremindersout
• Matt:
set up meeting time with CWG people
ask Sam for latest onboarding material and links location
Prepare simple walk through of mastodon admin interface for OC members
work with Caitlin and Flan on workshops idea
write up OC origin story (from original proposal and sortition docs) for wiki
organize meeting with MayFirst on engagement
check with Josh to see what non-OC people can see/access
Caitlin:
• set up meeting between OC and FWG for end-of-summer • join meeting with Matt for admin material
EduMerco:
- organizing meeting w/Flancian and the TWG.
- create a proposal for a structure to get info on tasks for each WG.
- work on the wiki reviewing the bylaws and potential changes to the OC page? - support Matt uber task list somehow.
Marie: Agenda, To-do list
1320 [10 min] Feedback: What worked well with this call and what could be improved? Explain why.
middleagendaloosebutgood
backlogitemslistisgood
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scope size? mission drift/inflation? what is our specific scope? (what are the things that we and
only we should do?)
got through our agenda in 30 mins. (wow!)
Kathe TB Wed 3 Jul 2024 4:15PM
Recap
Today we focused on clearing some low hanging decisions from our backlog, reviewed some new documentation, and heard updates from the working groups.
We are going to move forward with some listening sessions this summer with the main working groups (Tech, Community, and Financing). These sessions will focus on understanding what the working group currently does and how we can better support them in their work. We hope to have this complete by end of summer.
We are going to schedule some time on calls for a walk through of our 'Admin' access to the mastodon server. We spent a bit of time discussing a possible seminar or workshop series as an outreach/onboarding tool to encourage member engagement with operations. This series feels like a big lift.
We have a wiki page https://wiki.social.coop/wiki/Organizing_Circle that was overall favoribly seen. Called out specifically was the link to loomio threads and groups, sketch of the agendas, simple language, and layout of the decision log. Suggested revisions are to pull out the links from the text and move them to a list at the bottom of the section, as well as adding an annual rhythm for overall meeting topics that includes regular revision of the wiki.
No circle updates today. Our next call will be on July 17th.
MarieVC (social.coop/@MarieVC) · Thu 27 Jun 2024 11:32AM
Agenda
The Organizing Circle for social.coop will meet 2024 3 July (Wednesday) 1200 - 1330 UTC. We will meet here: https://socialcoop.meet.coop/kat-aiw-mpv-6vv (the meeting may or may not be recorded). A tentative agenda is to be consented to at the start of the call:
1200 [5 min] ADMIN
Who is here?
Does anyone need to leave early?
Confirm our next call on 17 July (Wednesday) 1200 UTC
Review recap from last call
https://www.loomio.com/d/RtGvSgIJ/organizing-circle-meeting-2024-19-june-wednesday-1200-utc
Who is note taking?
Who is facilitating? Kathe
1205 [10 min] Check in:
How are you showing up today? What are you bringing into the space? [https://www.nycnvc.org/feelings]
1215 [10 min] Agenda construction (potential items, topics discussed at previous meetings, work in progress):
Wiki follow-up? https://www.loomio.com/d/kuVrqiLv/wiki-page-for-organizing-circle
Visits to WG (planning)?
See the different Loomio threads (Organizing Circle Group):
https://www.loomio.com/socialcoop-organizing-circle/
Backlog items
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1225 [5 min] Updates: What is the status of your to-do items? Can someone help you?
Call a round to check in with people
1230 [5 min] Updates from working circles
Finance
Tech
Community
Legal - defunct
1235 [5 min] Update: What was said by the group in active Loomio threads. Do we need to respond to anything or integrate something into our discussion?
1240 [30 min] Items to be consented at the start of the meeting
1310 [10 min] Tasks: What are you taking out of this call as a task or todo item?
1320 [10 min] Feedback: What worked well with this call and what could be improved? Explain why.
Backlog items
The items below are not on the active agenda but should be addressed at some point in the future:
Strategically, how do we provide a framework for the Finance WG to budget overall and help manage surplus?
Communications: should there be a SC newsletter?? (like GEO newsletter)
Long term strategy
How do we deal with liability as an organization? Do we need to consider some kind of incorporation or legal entity? If so where?
Strategically, how do we provide a framework for the Finance WG to budget overall and help manage surplus?
"Maintenance care", how to support TWG and its members (cf. xy crisis driven by single mantainer)
Compensation log
Offering bounties $ to support open source projects or coop efforts
Short term proposal dev
Develop information flow and organizatoin
Triad of conversations (Garden/Stream, https://hapgood.us/2015/10/17/the-garden-and-the-stream-a-technopastoral/)
stream: Mastodon
in between: Loomio
permanent: Wiki documentation
How many people engage in what category/dimension?
Ask working groups for TWO reps instead of one.
Check in on group condition, engagement level, look at moving forward with (a)synchronous engagement
Loomio OC Group private/public https://www.loomio.com/d/Vt7LCaPM/using-loomio-for-our-group
Ask for training on 'what it means to be an admin' to orientate new admins
Annual patterns https://www.loomio.com/d/BtVCdq01/annual-rhythms-of-organizing-circle-
Contact Finance, and Community for joint meetings topic: How can we help?
Decisions to be reviewed in the future: governance definitions published on our Wiki (September 2024), character limit (6 months after the start of the experiment)