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Sun 5 Jul 2015 1:55PM

Aim 8: We will provide an environment for open but respectful critique, debate and action.

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Poll Created Mon 6 Jul 2015 8:39AM

We will provide an environment for open but respectful critique, debate and action. Closed Wed 30 Sep 2015 8:07AM

Results

Results Option % of points Voters
Agree 100.0% 2 PW BT
Abstain 0.0% 0  
Disagree 0.0% 0  
Block 0.0% 0  
Undecided 0% 4 MN RDB HW BM

2 of 6 people have participated (33%)

BT

Bill Templer
Agree
Mon 6 Jul 2015 9:11AM

maybe instead of environment => a space for ...
'respectful' may be OK - but is open to wide interpretation. Varoufakis speaks truth to power in Brussels and is deemed 'disrespectful'. A reason he just resigned as minister. http://goo.gl/lwsWgp

MN

Mura Nava Mon 6 Jul 2015 9:30AM

something like reasoned critique?

BT

Bill Templer Mon 6 Jul 2015 9:41AM

Hi

MAYBE: for open and reasoned critique, debate and action 'reasoned action' is itself a special focus see https://goo.gl/LplH0F ( https://goo.gl/LplH0F )

respectful has connotations of 'politically correct' at times

Bill

DU

Theresa Gorman Tue 7 Jul 2015 2:10PM

This is very similar to Aim 3 from the pilot discussion, which 8 people agreed to: To provide a pro-teacher space for critical debate and action. Rose suggested: To promote a safe and dynamic place for critical debate with the aim to promote change.
I agree with Bill that 'respectful' can be problematic--who gets to define what is respectful?
Maybe we could combine all of these ideas: something like: We aim to provide a safe, dynamic and pro-teacher space for critical, reasoned debate with the aim to promote change.

BM

Blair Matthews Wed 8 Jul 2015 11:54AM

Just have "open" - debate can be shut down if the other side views it as "disrespectful." Debate is subjectively received by different people, and one person's openness is another person's "disrespect," particularly where it suits them to close down a debate.

BM

Blair Matthews Wed 8 Jul 2015 11:55AM

Also, debate and action are separate - perhaps they should be separate aims?

HW

Helen Waldron Sat 11 Jul 2015 2:25PM

I'm okay with "respectful". It means we listen to each other and agree to differ without mud-slinging, doesn't it? Hopefully we have more common ground than Varoufakis and Brussels did.

PW

Paul Walsh Sat 11 Jul 2015 4:26PM

For me, I think respectful is ambiguous (if you don't have a Code of Conduct).

Important for me: that it's a safe space, it's pro-teacher, a place for critical views to be aired or voiced.

Debate implies there's a losing side. Action is a next step in the process.

I think 'conversation' is still good - there's no sides.