CPWG Meeting Management
Seems as though we're already running out of time and we could use more interactivity on the, albeit large, calls. This is just a place to share thoughts and make proposals.
Eduardo Diaz
Wed 13 May 2020 9:16PM
What about if before the presentation we designate a rapporteur and have that person be on the look for questions and when the presenter is ready for them then the selected rapporteur can just ask them?
Judith Hellerstein
Wed 13 May 2020 11:43PM
Plus1 to Marita. I feel the same as she does
Amrita Choudhury
Thu 14 May 2020 12:45AM
Both option of putting question in chat and raising hand should be allowed. Infact putting a question on the chat with a <question> tag helps in easy identification and understanding. Written questions are always easier to understand.Also many times participants in a session may not be able to speak or the session may not have that much of time to take questions at the end.
Jonathan Zuck Sat 9 May 2020 6:28AM
Sorry, I didn't understand you question. did you want to change your vote or remove your comment?
Nadira AL-Araj Sat 9 May 2020 8:19AM
Yes, I was attempting to remove the comments thinking it is related to the vote. But when I looked at the vote results I found out my new vote eliminated the old one.
so is there a way to remove the first comment?
Jonathan Zuck Sat 9 May 2020 5:32PM
I think you click on "edit" and from there you can delete
Nadira AL-Araj Sat 9 May 2020 6:48PM
The edits work here but not on the comments of the poll
Jonathan Zuck Sat 9 May 2020 6:29AM
@Marita Moll I guess that's my point. Should we be using the calls so much for just briefings or could those be better done as webinars or something. Seems to me the reason for making a presentation on a call is to get feedback, no?
Jonathan Zuck Sat 9 May 2020 5:35PM
@Nadira AL-Araj , you seem to be suggesting that we might want to use ONLY the chat for questions/comments to avoid repetition so we don't ever call on anyone to intervene verbally? A part of me likes that idea but I don't think we'd get away with it!
Nadira AL-Araj Sat 9 May 2020 6:47PM
Agree, particularly to those on the audio bridge but as much as possible to encourage comments/questions on the chat that would be good
Sebastien Bachollet Tue 12 May 2020 8:45AM
Please NO. You have people who are more writer than speaker and the other way around. I realy prefer to talk but the tools (like this one) obliged me to write. Too much...
Jonathan Zuck Tue 12 May 2020 10:12AM
That makes sense but how do we keep people from babbling on too long or saying exactly the same thing as the person before them. We need to. do some training perhaps.
Sebastien Bachollet Tue 12 May 2020 10:58AM
I suggest 2 things
Use a 2’ timer for all
Ask the usual suspects to be exemplary
Nadira AL-Araj Wed 13 May 2020 6:32AM
Another way, at the beginning of the meeting to remind the participants that no need to take the mic if the discussion point was raised by any other participants.
Some participants think that talking in the session gives indication that they are active. Maybe to assure to the participants that getting and contributing into drafting team what makes an active participant.
Jonathan Zuck Wed 13 May 2020 8:22AM
Good idea. Perhaps this is a good reason to use polling so people feel engaged but don't feel the need to make repetitive interventions
Justine C. Wed 13 May 2020 11:26PM
Perhaps folks can post +1's in chat in agreement; we really should limit use of polls to answering a proposed position or question.
Jonathan Zuck Sat 16 May 2020 1:33AM
Why do you say that @Justine C. ? Isn't a poll quicker than counting +1s in that chat?
Justine C. Sun 17 May 2020 2:27AM
Depends.
Polls are better for yes or no questions. And if staff need to prep for polls in advance, then how to use polls in relation to comments coming in on the fly?
I feel too many polls are disruptive and folks may get lost in terms of timing - so polling during a call may be problematic.
Jonathan Zuck Sun 17 May 2020 2:51AM
Well, it's all an experiment but polls can be yes no, multiple choice, multiple choices. That covers a lot of ground. You're trying to get feedback on language and I thi K that's REALLY rough. Multiple languages, etc. People presenting to the CPWG need to
have thought questions, I think. Which of these are priorities? Which of these two things is more important, etc. Most aren't really capable of suggesting better language. Just my thoughts on a Saturday evening
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Justine C. Sun 17 May 2020 2:58AM
I am only answering to "Why wouldn't a +1 in chat work as well as or better than a poll to indicate support for a comment?"
To be clear, we are on the "More Disciplined Chat" thread.
Harold Arcos Tue 12 May 2020 4:24PM
JZ seem this is an open question not a proposal. This is a good exercise to check the sort of sentences that we built to leave, either to comment or vote. An Idea would be debating it and a Proposal would be at the end of debate with a sentence more complete, then we will be vote. A bit like our process to discuss positions in Alac that you presented but throug this great tool, loomio.
Jonathan Zuck Tue 12 May 2020 6:33PM
Sure. More than anything, I was trying to show how Loomio might be used. There are a couple ways to take the "temperature of the room," one of which is the Poll and the other is the Proposal, which is just another kind of poll with fixed answers. Ideally, we would do a bunch of these little things along the way in a conversation to see if consensus was forming and ultimately, if we got a strong response one way or the other, we would have a documented consensus that we wouldn't need to constantly revisit...at least not without intention! ;)
Sebastien Bachollet Mon 1 Jun 2020 2:51PM
It maybe also usefull for the one(s) leading a(ny) call to try to engage all. Asking the one not talking (or writing) to take the mic and help them to be beter engage.
Jonathan Zuck Mon 1 Jun 2020 3:02PM
You mean just call on someone to speak like they do in law school? Not sure how people will react to being put on the spot
Judith Hellerstein Mon 1 Jun 2020 3:04PM
Yes Jonathan,
I think that is what he was saying. But you could also say, if
you prefer to respond in the chat instead of speaking that is also
OK. This way we can encourage them to engage but also give them an
out
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Sebastien Bachollet Mon 1 Jun 2020 3:18PM
Yes Judith. We need to find a way or ways to involve more people. We can just leave the mic to us the usual suspects even if waht we say is very important and so unique ;)
Nadira AL-Araj · Sat 9 May 2020 4:52AM
How to remove my earlier response? I got the reply, my earlier response is not counted