How to treat out-of-date languages

For reference the 6 languages that are live and below 60% are:

• Bulgarian
• Catalan
• Hungarian
• Indonesian
• Malayalam
• Vietnamese

I'd say that depends on which parts are missing. If the basic functionality of Loomio is still available in the translated language, I'd keep it online. E.g. if there is just the main website missing, but all the discussion features are available, keep it.

If you decide to hide some of them, please flag them somewhere very visible on the translators panel and on Transifex to avoid confusion.

We have a commitment to clear communication, so if there won't be any out of the blue changes.

This is the start of a conversation to broaden understanding of the impact (if any) on low translation percentage.

It would be ideal to have a good idea of what is core translation text and what isn't and where each language is at. Unfortunately there is quite a lot of work involved in that we've not had time. (would love to collaborate on that if anyone is interested in helping.)

i say if a translation below e.g. 60% to be treated as out-of-date. Because it's confusing and you never know if the translators to these languages are still active or they don't care any more about the translation. So if you don't do anything that percent score will continue to fall as new strings to be translated come all the time.

Before deleting a translation, I'd suggest to make a public call to find newly engaged translators for that language. If you raise awareness of a partial translation, I'm sure you can quickly find some new people.

Also: Maybe the original translators don't even know that their translation fell below the 60% mark? There have been massive additions during the last couple of months.

Hi Mix and cia!

I think the clever way to manage this is to give users the possibility to choose what they want.

Of course will be nice to give them the percentage of the amount currently translated, but letting them to choose what they prefer.

Also would be nice to make them feel part of the translation team, in the sense that they could even become collaborators eventually if we make that Loomio give users the best option based on what most of the people with that language has done by now. :)

As you know translation is one of the hardest part of any multilingual application. And the challenge in Loomio is even harder, 'cause it tries to be useful for every community everywhere.

I think is fair and good for all of us to make the users feel part of Loomio.

Cheers,
-- nando

If they are right, I don't think deleting translations could be ever a good idea...

i don't think anyone spoke about deleting language translations.

only about disabling it, especially when they are missing so many words/phrases and become confusing for the members.

Sorry Chris, the comment of Christian Mairoll sent at the same time than mine just started talking about that. And that was my fast response about that issue.

Chris,

maybe is not the "corporate way" of thinking or doing things, but I think that if we let the users to give us that feedback, it could help us to know when a translations is becoming unusable and translations are urgently needed.

Don't you agree?
-- nando