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Mon 12 Aug 2013 6:16AM

What state should we make this in? Assuming in the US

JG Jammie Gregory Public Seen by 19

What would be the ideal state in the US to start this in, we want to agree on one that offers the best chances of success for our group. How is the economy in that state? Are the people very accepting of new ideas and change, or are they conservative or intolerant of differences? How hospitable is the state, does it have lots of ticks, poison snakes spiders, poison ivy, lots of allergens, flood risks, hurricanes, earthquakes, drought, overpopulation?

GC

Gene Cox Wed 14 Aug 2013 3:44AM

I am guessing this would be in the united states since as of my last check, most people in the hybrid facebook group are from the u.s., state: Texas. Ideally, there should be at least one community on every continent, but that could possibly already be the case, depending on who is supporting this virtual community.

JG

Jammie Gregory Wed 14 Aug 2013 4:32AM

I would hope not Alaska, grew up there and hate it, too cold and dark, depressing, far to drive, sometimes plagues of mosquitoes, lots of land and resources though, the people are cool too. Arkansas is extremely fertile, but comes with lots of poison snakes, spiders, ivy everywhere, allergens, agriculture isn't that important imo and is offset by a bad economy, the people are very conservative and usually religious. Colorado is my first choice atm, the people are friendly and open minded, the economy is fairly good considering, it is very scenic, the temperature is mild due to low humidity(like a desert), no snakes and spiders or many bugs, lots of pine trees, and since they legalized pot it suggests it is very open to change.

GC

Gene Cox Wed 14 Aug 2013 7:33PM

Colorado seems to be a popular choice.

JG

Jammie Gregory Wed 14 Aug 2013 9:28PM

Colorado was among the fastest growing awhile back before the recessionoccalypse, but there may well be better choices, I've only lived in those 3 states first hand, and I haven't even begun to look at all the statistical information from state to state.

BS

Blaine Smith Fri 16 Aug 2013 8:59PM

I think the south-west 1/4 of Colorado would be the best place to start. It has cheap land, it has little to no weather phenomenon, and is a free area to build eco-construction, specifically Montrose County

http://earthship.com/pockets-of-freedom

http://www.switchlv.com/wp-content/uploads/disaster_avoidance_2013/disaster-map.html

http://www.landwatch.com/default.aspx?ct=r&type=5,31;6,1529;268,6843&px=100000&sort=SZ_D

JG

Jammie Gregory Fri 16 Aug 2013 11:54PM

1.2k$ an acre doesn't seem like a good deal to me. If it has lots of timber to cut down and make into products that might be worth it. I get the feeling someone is going to have to become an expert on buying land just to get a fair deal here.

JG

Jammie Gregory Sat 17 Aug 2013 12:01AM

There's also a lot of abandoned mining claims in Colorado, some are reopening since precious metal went up so much, from what I've read it doesn't take much to money to reclaim an old mine and work it, some only require $500 a year in property upkeep and some paperwork, but Idk what kind of acreage that comes with and how they would feel about a bunch of hippy types showing up to camp there and build cob huts to "work the mines".

TAA

Thomas A. Anderson Mon 19 Aug 2013 3:20AM

I have been looking at area around "flagstaff AZ," due to the elevation, and lack of humidity to get both mild climates and a larger array of temperatures in one closely packed area (up a mountain you find snow in some areas year round while down in the basin below the mountain temps remain between 65F to 92F from winter to summer) The prices range between 300 dollars an acre and up, so 1,2k$ an acre is definitely something you will see, but most of the time I think that is based on development and structures, and proximity to something considered value raising like say how close to (and accessible to) grand canyon national park. Further away from that like closer to presscott and the price drops significantly. Other times it is just I guess being lucky. But I think a party to go survey in person is going to be essential for sure.

TAA

Thomas A. Anderson Mon 19 Aug 2013 3:32AM

also on the idea of mining, we need to survey for that too (putting this in another comment to break things up and make it easier to digest it individually)
I think having a good resource base to begin and easy to obtain mineral rights is definitely a must. There is a lot of geographically recent activity in both colorado and arizona. so there should be a lot of options to mine minerals that might otherwise be difficult to obtain, locally in a lot of places. but more research on locations is a must, the more we have available with out sacrificing other needed aspects, the better.

BS

Blaine Smith Mon 19 Aug 2013 4:28AM

Ok, so on that note, I think it would be a good idea to go on a road trip or something to find a great location for this. Anyone want to join me, it will be fun :)

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