"Quiet times" during Kiez Burn

So, last year (KB 17), the biggest criticism from the Census was "Too fucking loud!!!". Also, at Welfare we had lots of cases related to the issue, many people were in physical and emotional distress due to the constant noise without the possibility to have a break from it.

I think we as a community have to learn from this and do better for the well-being of the participants. Some Burns have "Quiet-times" of no music for a few hours, usually around the morning. Who hasn't been to a Burn and remember can't sleeping at 6AM because someone is playing "the set of his life" in full volume with only dust as his crowd :-)

I believe the first decision should be yes/no, and then the second decision should be what times, in case of a yes. I have very strong feelings towards 'yes', mainly due to the wide feedback we got last year. It is highly important in my view to include also those who cannot bear loud music at all times, and also to remember that this is a Burn event and people love expressing themselves through music, dancing. We need to do the best we can to reach a balanced ground here where no "side" feels lacks of consideration.

There are all kind of factors and issues here. I believe Site Planning worked hard to make the situation better compared to last year (size of the site def helps). Sounds camps should make their voice heard about this, and also a voice from The Mothership should contribute (Wonderers/Welfare). Ear plugs should be mentioned in the survival guide, and also Welfare can offer those mega head/earphones of construction site to help you really feel some silence if you are very distressed.

After personally speaking to some people, the best solution I can think of that takes everyone into consideration is to let everyone (or perhaps only in the loud zone?) enjoy the sunrise for music - remember, we have a very early sunrise - and then have 4 to 5 hours of silence, something like 6 to 11 or 7 to 12 or something like that, the decision is flexible of course.

So, let's kick if off, and maybe mention in your comment if you are writing as a participant or as a lead, or perhaps both and mentioning 'where are you coming from'.

I like this proposal of having a specific time when no music is played, and your suggestions of 6 or 7 until 11 or 12 seem good to me. (I just checked and sunrise will be around 4:35 am).

[I might be a bit biased since personally at festivals/burns I usually stay awake until about 5 or 6 am then go to sleep, so that kind of schedule would work perfectly for me]

7am-11am quiet hores (no music), 11am-3pm low volue

One possibility would be to have different stages be loud at different times. Something like no restrictions until 6 am, then from 6 am to 8 am only one stage playing (alternating on different days), 8 am to 12 noon no music.

Only having one stage would also kind of bring the energy into a more concentrated area instead of spreading it out when there aren't as many people out and about.

i like this idea we need one sunrise stage

Yes please. It's healthy for the community 12pm to 6pm low-mid volume only - - - - - > 6pm FUN BEGINS :))) That is 12 hours of loud fun out of 24. Pretty decent I'd say (and I'm a raver ;)) (Alina of SüßKiez)

7-11 no music, 11-15 lowered volume

Hahaha, it seems like everyone wants quiet time during the day, which I am not opposed to at all. Since I like having a good night sleep, I would love some quiet time during the night (too) :-D.
With the last Kiezburn I feel like the volume of the main stage was the main problem. That´s why I really like the idea of the main stage(s) closing from e.g. 3am until 9am and for only small (every night differing) sound camps being allowed to play music at a reasonable volume. That way people that want to party can still find a dance floor and people that want to sleep can do so. This idea only makes sense though, when the main stage(s) are located in the middle of the Burn, like last time. In case the main stage(s) are located on the rim or even outside, it might be better the other way around: Main stage(s) open all night (at a reasonable volume from e.g. 3am-9am) and no sound camps playing music at all during that time.

I like the idea of having a quite time. 6 to 11 seems good to me. Maybe just play really quite music then to chill out.

I would like to make 2 observations:
1. the site is 6 times bigger than last year with many hills & valleys
2. we took sound really into consideration this year during the site planning, with sound travelling east, you can check what this means for your Kiez and camping here: http://bit.ly/2rj5SIx (check out the layer "sound zones")

I would like to make the following proposal:
1. Sound camps are obliged to put base dampers behind their speakers so that sound leakage is limited. @randy or @bandit can tell more about this. Randy already posted this link in loomio that he made: http://bit.ly/2rjbTFX
2. Quiet hours should be different for the 3 different zones: (1) quiet area (2) semi-loud area & wash area (3) loud area
3. Sound areas should be clearly communicated during greeting to ppl and clear on the maps in the booklet, so ppl can make informed choices about where to put up their tent

==> how these quiet hours are then defined, I don't know... Maybe some concrete dB would be helpful + we would need a measuring device for that then?

Oh, any my role: help site & power & kieze planning