Ideas around effective use of Loomio by TB
This is a thread to explore how we can more effectively use this platform to facilitate debates & aide in reaching consensus on specific issues/questions.
Robin Tue 27 Aug 2013 10:20PM
Interestingly enough, my flatmate met a Loomio programmer at an Auckland house party a few days ago :)
Well, that's my constructive comment for the day.
Poll Created Tue 27 Aug 2013 10:24PM
Should Loomio votes be binding? Closed Tue 3 Sep 2013 8:51PM
proposal has run it's course.
people unsure how to use, or even if Loomio should used to aid as a consensus tool.
the question of binding vs. non-binding is based on (now void) assumption that users would be interested in making use of the platform
Tuesday meetings & votes should always carry more weight than other (online) channels, but this platform affords us the opportunity to allow members to vote & have a voice who might not be able to attend on issues (such as current weekend debates).
Should the votes here be considered as binding & final (green [Yes]), or should it be considered an 'OK' subject to acceptance/ratification (i.e informing consent) during a meeting (pink [No]) - eg. 10 yes votes here + 2 @ meet > 2 no's here + 5 @ meet.
(/me hopes this makes sense)
Results
| Results | Option | % of points | Voters | |
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Agree | 20.0% | 1 |
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| Abstain | 20.0% | 1 |
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| Disagree | 40.0% | 2 |
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| Block | 20.0% | 1 |
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| Undecided | 0% | 3 |
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5 of 8 people have participated (62%)
Jaco van der Merwe
Tue 27 Aug 2013 10:24PM
I'm OK to go with the flow
Jeremy Read
Tue 27 Aug 2013 10:41PM
I'm personally in favour of it being ranked equally. A vote is a vote.
Danielle
Tue 27 Aug 2013 10:51PM
Binding? LIke the decision made in loomio is a Tangleball decision? No. For an individual, like that person showed up to cast a vote? Maybe sometime down the road, not yet. For now, share the #s at the vote for context, but proxies already exist.
Ed
Wed 28 Aug 2013 4:23AM
Reviews last night of loomio were not stellar. The biggest issue seemed to be the splintering of discussion. As in: To fully keep up with issues, you must attend meetings, read the discussion list, and read various loomio threads.
Mr CK
Mon 2 Sep 2013 10:44AM
F*#K no!! LOL Position strongly stated. 208 characters left... ooops 178 characters left. oh bugger I think this is a losing game. Lol
Mr CK Mon 2 Sep 2013 10:55AM
OMG, we are having a discussion about this becoming binding after we have heard about a couple of weeks ago????
OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG oMg OmG omg omg oh dear.
This reminds me about the referendum on smacking kids being criminalised.
"Should a smack as part of good parenting be a criminal offence in NZ?"
Equating smacking with good parenting. [sometimes one wants to, but one restrains ones self]
Why is the heading different to the proposal.
"Ideas around effective use of Loomio by TB"
Seems innocuous, right?
"Should Loomio votes be binding?"
Now there is the hook.
Seems a complete mismatch.
Dude, propose it then abstain?
I think someone is stirring.
Ah well that's all the spleen I have left for the day.
Nite nite all.
Jaco van der Merwe · Tue 27 Aug 2013 10:16PM
I find the bottom-up singularly linear construct of these threads a little hard to read & follow.
I've found it lacking in.... readability... compared to other mediums such as mailing lists or forums - i.e. it's hard to reply to a single comment.
But the short form is not bad in encouraging getting a single idea across at a time.