NEW blog for diaspora*
Remember www.diasporial.com? Of course you do. Unfortunately the blog is not being updated any longer. We need to make diaspora* development possible, and we need to get involved. Not all of us are programmers, but we can write and promote this social network. We need to organize ourselves and do the following: 1. promote the new blog (blog.diasporafoundation.org) where anyone can share info, promote diaspora* in as many ways as possible, call on volunteer programmers; 2. move the content of the old www.diasporial.com to the new blog; 3. avoid trolling and keep being positive about it ;)
P.S. Please remind me if I missed something and feel free to jump right in :)
You can also check this thread https://www.loomio.org/d/x9VBan3j/diaspora-foundation-site-proposal about the new diaspora* website and https://www.loomio.org/d/rIUqBLWH/project-domain-name for the domain name. But what about the blog? Should the new blog contain the old diasporial blog content?
riderplus Sun 7 Dec 2014 12:47PM
Yes, maybe ;) I'm also very talkative so please excuse me if I'm overdoing it some times.
riderplus Sun 7 Dec 2014 2:34PM
Yes, @goob, too bad Loomio has no option to merge the discussions/ proposals...
Dennis Schubert Sun 7 Dec 2014 3:02PM
FWIW, we already have a working planet source, but it's not merged into the project site yet.
I'd support a planet if there are active community blogs and I'd be happy to merge it in.
riderplus Sun 7 Dec 2014 3:06PM
^ +1 yes I'd be glad if you, @dennisschubert , did that.
Flaburgan Sun 7 Dec 2014 5:43PM
@dennisschubert a planet (or a community blog) would be nice, but I worry about the translation of the content. I could write blogposts and talk about the project and the french community, but I don't feel comfortable enough to do it in english. Could we imagine an interface maybe with tabs (one per language), to easily manage languages in a planet / blog? Every post would be posted in a language, and readers would be encouraged to translate it with a tab "translate this post" for example.
goob Sun 7 Dec 2014 6:10PM
Fla, as the 'planet' would be an aggregation of blog posts written by community members, I don't think there is any need to translate blog posts into other languages (e.g. yours, written in French, into English). Your blog posts would be for the French community, other people would write for the German community, English community and so on.
I guess a language filter would be nice (perhaps each blogger included in the planet could indicate which language they will be writing in, so that the foundation site doesn't need to implement automatic language detection), but I don't see it as essential.
Jason Robinson Sun 7 Dec 2014 6:28PM
+1 for what Goob said
Flaburgan Sun 7 Dec 2014 9:08PM
Well I'm almost sure people would think it's weird to find a post with only a french version on the official website so we should think about the translation process now before setting up the planet.
Jason Robinson Sun 7 Dec 2014 9:35PM
If it's a planet the posts will not be official project posts - just collected under the project. They might not even be about diaspora, even if they should :P
Deleted account Sun 7 Dec 2014 11:29PM
If it’s a planet the posts will not be official project posts - just collected under the project.
Well it can be a problem as the idea is to show that the project himself is alive and dynamic :/
goob Mon 8 Dec 2014 12:03PM
Well it can be a problem as the idea is to show that the project himself is alive and dynamic
I don't see it as a problem. The project is community-driven, so if the community it shown to be alive and dynamic, that means the project is (and also shows that the project is not centralised and corporate-controlled, like the big networks).
riderplus Mon 8 Dec 2014 12:14PM
I don’t see it as a problem. The project is community-driven, so if the community it shown to be alive and dynamic, that means the project is (and also shows that the project is not centralised and corporate-controlled, like the big networks).
Well, not necessarily. diaspora* IS alive and dynamic, but the way in which the interface of "joining diaspora*" looks right now, the way in which the list of pods feels, and the lack of basic features on the diaspora* platform seem to contradict its being "alive and dynamic". It's still very very much nerd pollution going around, too much complaints and no solutions, too many outdated opinions that keep its progress blocked. So I disagree with you on that: the project is going forward, people are working, but the interface of the project, the interaction between diaspora* people that don't have the skills to program and programmers is still poor, which makes the project lag lag behind other social networks in terms of functionality. This is not a pessimistic remark, it's realistic, and we have to make diaspora* more democratic than it is right now...in all its aspects. That's just my point of view, so don't blame me for bringing about these :)
goob Mon 8 Dec 2014 4:44PM
@riderplus, I agree with what you say about improving the experience for prospective members; however, my comment was addressing the specific suggestion of aggregating community-sourced blogs in a blog 'planet' on the project site, not on the wider experience. If we did that, the fact of there being many posts from many people about Diaspora would in itself show that the project is alive and moving.
The other parts of the interface, as you call it, such as the pod-choosing tool, can certainly be improved to help the process of bringing people in to Diaspora, but that is something separate from the specific point about community blogs I was addressing. To show that this decentralised project is alive and moving, we don't need the blog posts to be written by a central 'Diaspora HQ' on the official blog; they can be written by other people on their personal blogs, and displayed on the Diaspora site in the 'planet'.
Hope that makes more sense.
riderplus Mon 8 Dec 2014 5:05PM
@goob I see, yes, now you made it more crystal-clear. I totally agree on your above points: aggregation in the planet is the way to go. I agree with you because the whole idea of decentralisation is maintained, and that's one of the things diaspora* is about: "unity in diversity", even though it's a stereotype atm
Jason Robinson · Sun 7 Dec 2014 12:40PM
Well, adoption is really the thing that determines officiality - not deciding something, IMHO. But talk is always good, I think you just were a bit eager with the proposal thing.. :)