diaspora* stickers

Just joined this "group". Wanted to say that I think it's an excellent idea :D

Here is how I see the deal:
We authorize them to use our brand on stickers and we promote the store on the official website.
In exchange, they give us a % of the sells revenue.

The world needs more Diaspora stickers.

Please please please design one that goes over the lit up Apple logo on the back of my MacBook :)

What do we know about the deal. I'm all in favour of stickers, and raising money, but can't vote on this proposal until we know more about what the deal would be, what they're offering and what we'd be giving them.

Reply from Stefano @ Unixstickers.com;

Hello Jason,

Awesome, thanks for replying, we're incredibly happy to work together with project maintainers :-)

What we usually propose is the following:

• We produce a full collection of merchandising (starting with Stickers and Pins, then extending to t-shirts if the we agree and the experiment works) – Products are high quality, no compromises on this.
• You get a revenues share of 35% on Diaspora products.
• We send you loads of merchandising at production cost (or free, depending on quantity) to give away or sell at conferences and events

Is there anything we can do about the official vote? Let me know if you need any other information.

What we ask from your side would be the following, let me know what you can and can't do:
- A blog post
- Twitter/Facebook message
- Message on your newsletter/newsgroup/forum
- Link on your site

Let me know :-)

Best, Stefano.

unixstickers.com

I'll vouch personally for the high quality of the stuff - I've ordered loads, just ordered more for my new work laptop a few days ago.

I'll make a new proposal relating to the deal Stefano proposes, with all the details so we can either close this to proceed, or if a majority disagrees, we can discuss further.

If someone has questions, post here and someone from the press team will send the questions out.

At least a few questions come to mind;

• How the design process works
• Is PayPal ok (since we're stuck with that - as sad as it is..)

I think checking back with the FSSN whether they would be ok with accepting revenue through such an agreement would be ok with them is the only major blocker for this.

Thanks Jason and Jonne. Sounds good!

@jonnehass sure we can ask - someone got a contact email?

I'll send that email off to the FSSN when I have a moment today, I'll make sure to bring the stickers up. :)

@seantilleycommunit got a moment to send out the mail yet?

Sean sent the mail, we are now waiting for an answer from FSSN.

Do you know if the stickers would sell cheaper if we disclaimed the revenue share?

Yay, stickers! :)

Sent reply to Stefano - also with question from @manuelbichler

Yay, heard back from unixstickers.com

Answer to question from @manuelbichler

As of forfeiting revenues, we like to keep prices even on our site, as differences could create confusion, but let us know if this is important for you and we can give it a serious thought. Revenue sharing would still be preferred.

I at least don't want to start making any special arrangements. If someone wants to push this direction, we need to vote on it.

As for PayPal:

As of donations: no problems with PayPal, it's even handier for us than wire transfers :)

They will take care of everything and let us know about the designs. Though for the money part, we still need to hear from the FSSN - though it's hard to imagine they would be able to say no.

Unless I've misunderstood what you mean by 'say no', I don't think the FSSN can say no, as they are not in any way in charge of Diaspora*'s money - they just hold it for the project. I don't think that they can have any say in what happens to it.

Bang - we have designs which wait our final acceptance for a go live next week already! :)

I've uploaded them here: https://cloud.jasonrobinson.me/public.php?service=files&t=9ca41117bbdc668b3973b8baad29ae04

As they conform to our branding specs and approval has already been voted on to use that branding, I would like to give the final approval without a further vote. If no one objects, will do so within 24h. Unixstickers will make these available for order early next week \o/

Btw, whether the project will receive money for them is still not clear, but that is another matter. Unfortunately things are unclear with the FSSN still - they are slow to reply and it's not clear still how the paypal id they have for us works.

Can't wait to order these - look good in the pictures :D

Just to clarify on the money - the problem is not unixstickers.com - the problem is the FSSN.

Ohh, they look wonderful! Is it too late to propose a change though? I'd really like the one with a circle in gray/white instead of black/white, like the default icons for pods. But if it means a big vote and a lot of extra time, then I'm totally fine with these :)

I would like to give the final approval without a further vote.

That's fine with me, Jason. Thanks for your work in getting this going.

@ivangabrielmoren I'm guessing we can suggest changes to the stickers in time if this partnership goes well. I've sent the approval for this time now to not delay them getting available for purchase :)

Now we just need to sort things out with that FSSN... :P

awesome
thanks for handling this, jason!

I'd love to get word out of these too on the official accounts - @flaburgan @goob @jonnehass can we do that?

I can write if no objections. We should not mention the 35% cut as, well, until the FSSN really is sorted out we can't promise it.

But when taking on the deal we did promise also to promote the stickers. Plus our users want them :)

Sure, I never objected to promote them. I'm just saying that we should keep quiet on the exact deal for now.

I think we should definitely promote them. Don't need to give the financing details just yet, until we're sure of them.

So do we mention in the promote post that we receive part of the benefice made by the stickers sell? I think we should do that.

Once this is decided, we can post with diaspora HQ

We shouldn't mention it :P

@jasonrobinson well, that could encourage people to buy stickers, and we're almost sure to have the money anyway, even if we don't use FSSN for that, unixstickers will give it to us.

I suppose we could say that we have an agreement with Unixstickers to receive 35% of the proceeds - we just don't have to specify how that transfer is likely to take place.

I'd rather not make promises that are not 100%. We can always do a follow up message..

Okay time to post the message, what about that:

diaspora* stickers available

Hi diasporans, we now have a parternship with unixstickers to provide you awesome diaspora* stickers.

Unixstickers are known for the quality of their products, so we are really proud to work with them. More than that, part of the benefice made by selling the stickers go back to the diaspora foundation!

So don't wait, go to http://www.unixstickers.com/diaspora and order yours!

More than that, part of the benefice made by selling the stickers go back to the diaspora foundation!

@flaburgan Please, no mention of money back to the project until we are 100% certain the FSSN can be used for that. Otherwise OK - an image also would be nice :)

We can update people later when this is resolved - no need to mention it now!

Oh, okay, I thought we discussed about mentionning the exact participation (35%), not the fact that we will earn money that way. But Unixstickers said they're going to give us money, why should we hide that? I mean, even if we don't want to use the FSSN, we will probably do something like directlty pay @dennisschubert to pay the host costs, we will have the money anyway. Or maybe we are waiting for an official agreement with unixstickers, in that case I understand, but in the case we are waiting for the FSSN I don't understand. If we still don't know how we will have the money, we already know that we will have it anyway.

And yeah, tags + image in the message, of course ;)

We can update people later when this is resolved - no need to mention it now!

Fla, please... Let's not talk about any money-related stories until we're sure what's up.

https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3848518

Posted ;)

But Unixstickers said they’re going to give us money, why should we hide that?

We're not hiding it - it's all here in public :) And sure, if the FSSN doesn't work out, I'm sure we can discuss to get the revenue somewhere else from unixstickers.

Just no need to advertise it via the posts for now. Thanks for posting :)

Just saw this in the sticker product pages at unixstickers.com ;)

Would be nice to get the FSSN stuff sorted out - or some other paypal account if that doesn't work out. Been thinking of looking into some non-profit setup legal stuff even, I wonder if that would be easy to setup .. :P

Oh they have a typo, hehe. Plus maybe it's not "Diaspora Foundation" - it should say "diaspora* Project" I guess... opinions?

It's still at $12, that's really low, I saw different persons ordering stickers, I doubt the total is only $36...

@flaburgan unixstickers.com promised a share of the profit not the sales. I'm quite sure the amount per sticker they actually get profit is very low ;)

Wow, that's indeed completely different, it will definitely not become a real source of profit as I expected...