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Quarterly Project 2021Q4

CM Cj Malone Public Seen by 83

Anyone have any thoughts on topics for the next quarter? It'll be October/November/December so probably best to have a topic that we can do remote, with the colder weather. There are some good topics mentioned in the past [1] [2], that we may want to do this time. We could also revisit old projects if there is interest in doing that.

CM

Cj Malone Wed 15 Sep 2021 4:50PM

Fair enough, we'll just collect the data ourselves, and we can always use FHRS Open Data for address data and to help with identifying closed/new pubs.

FHRS Open Data currently lists 53,958 pub, bar or nightclub. OSM has 39,183 pubs, 5,509 bars and 1,060 nightclubs (=45,752). So we are surprisingly close with 8,206 less, but we can close that gap.

R

RobJN Wed 15 Sep 2021 8:13PM

You could ask for data from the owner of some of the big brands. M&B own quite a few brands that I'm sure you'll recognise: https://www.mbplc.com/ourbrands/

CM

Cj Malone Thu 16 Sep 2021 7:43AM

I've already collected (copyrighted) data from some of them and got it into Chain Reaction. If this becomes the QP, I'll put the rest at the top of my TODO list and request a copyright waver.

CM

Poll Created Wed 15 Sep 2021 4:22PM

QP 2021Q4 Closed Wed 22 Sep 2021 4:04PM

Outcome
by Cj Malone Mon 4 Oct 2021 4:04PM

Waste and Recycling won this round. I'm look forward to seeing what you all map.

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UK_Quarterly_Project/2021/2021_Q4_Project:_Waste_and_Recyling

What topic do you want to focus on for the next 3 months?

Results

Results Option Rank % of points Points Mean
Waste and Recycling 1 29.4% 97 2.9
Retail 2 25.5% 84 2.5
Pubs 3 24.5% 81 2.5
Places of Worship 4 20.6% 68 2.1
Undecided 0% 0 0

33 of 113 people have participated (29%)

T

trigpoint Wed 15 Sep 2021 4:25PM

 
1 - Retail
 
2 - Pubs
 
3 - Waste and Recycling
 
4 - Places of Worship

Retail in particular has had a rough time over the last 18 months, and mappers have been avoiding many such areas. It is important that we see what is there as we probably have a very outdated map in that category

J

joeldn Wed 15 Sep 2021 4:25PM

 
1 - Waste and Recycling
 
2 - Places of Worship
 
3 - Pubs
 
4 - Retail

ordered in roughly ascending order of climate damage

J

jambamkin Wed 15 Sep 2021 4:25PM

 
1 - Waste and Recycling
 
2 - Places of Worship
 
3 - Retail
 
4 - Pubs

Just think 'recycling' is more public good

MA

Mat Attlee Wed 15 Sep 2021 4:25PM

 
1 - Waste and Recycling
 
2 - Places of Worship
 
3 - Pubs
 
4 - Retail

Focus on the environment but also aware lots of places of worship aren't mapped

GMD

Gregory Marler (former Director) Wed 15 Sep 2021 4:25PM

 
1 - Places of Worship
 
2 - Pubs
 
3 - Waste and Recycling
 
4 - Retail

By the time this poll closes, my rather detailed tutorial on mapping Places of Worship will be live on Mapper Diaries.

I'm equally happy "surveying" pubs. 😆

AA

Andy Allan Wed 15 Sep 2021 4:25PM

 
1 - Retail
 
2 - Waste and Recycling
 
3 - Places of Worship
 
4 - Pubs

retail has high turnover and is good to revisit regularly.

AR

Andrew Ross Wed 15 Sep 2021 4:25PM

 
1 - Pubs
 
2 - Retail
 
3 - Waste and Recycling
 
4 - Places of Worship

Significant changes in pubs and retail since COVID

S

SK53 Wed 15 Sep 2021 4:25PM

 
1 - Places of Worship
 
2 - Waste and Recycling
 
3 - Retail
 
4 - Pubs

Open Data file found by eteb3 helps with former which is also an area of POIs still with lacunae. Retail & Pubs have been done to death as projects & dont work at all for areas which are well mapped, whereas locating minor churches, mosques etc is still worth doing

PB

Paul Berry Wed 15 Sep 2021 4:25PM

 
1 - Waste and Recycling
 
2 - Retail
 
3 - Pubs
 
4 - Places of Worship

There was a brief burst of interest around recycling centres back in March so we should look to continue this.

RAC

Richard Alexander Cook Wed 15 Sep 2021 4:25PM

 
1 - Places of Worship
 
2 - Pubs
 
3 - Retail
 
4 - Waste and Recycling

I think we need some on the ground mapping this quarter, Places of Worship will hopefully clear up a few nameless objects (Robert Whittaker's site says there are 3926 nameless). Pubs and Retail might still be a bit changeable, but FHRS might help there. Waste and Recycling needs a better explanation of the task.

JN

Jez Nicholson Wed 15 Sep 2021 4:25PM

 
1 - Waste and Recycling
 
2 - Places of Worship
 
3 - Pubs
 
4 - Retail

Have been building uk.wastemap.org with others and has sparked my interest in all things waste processing

TS

Tony Shield Wed 15 Sep 2021 4:25PM

 
1 - Retail
 
2 - Pubs
 
3 - Waste and Recycling
 
4 - Places of Worship

There has been high rates of churn in retail recently. Can we have clarity of marking empty shops - node with shop=vacant??

EL

Ed Loach Wed 15 Sep 2021 4:25PM

 
1 - Retail
 
2 - Waste and Recycling
 
3 - Places of Worship
 
4 - Pubs

Ranked based on what needs most work manually - lots of retail churn over the pandemic so lots of resurveying needed.

EB

Edward Bainton Wed 15 Sep 2021 4:25PM

 
1 - Pubs
 
2 - Retail
 
3 - Waste and Recycling
 
4 - Places of Worship

My hunch is pubs stand the best chance of engagement from people who aren't regular mappers: lots of folk are concerned at their local eatery closing up, and would be pleased to get it on the map as soft advertising if it's still going.

Retail needs lots of ground survey, and there's a lot of churn to deal with.

Places of worship would be better done when/if the GRO dataset becomes usable.

JG

Jack Gilmore Mon 20 Sep 2021 9:43PM

 
1 - Waste and Recycling
 
2 - Retail
 
3 - Pubs
 
4 - Places of Worship

Have been working on building https://openwastemap.uk and it would be great to see some more data updated on OSM to update the map

AB

Andrew Black Wed 15 Sep 2021 4:25PM

 
1 - Retail
 
2 - Pubs
 
3 - Waste and Recycling
 
4 - Places of Worship

A lot of change to retail during COVID era. Now may be time things are stabilising.

YP

Yorvik Prestigitor Wed 15 Sep 2021 4:25PM

 
1 - Places of Worship
 
2 - Waste and Recycling
 
3 - Pubs
 
4 - Retail

For future votes it would be useful to know what resources are available to support different project options.
Places of worship like the more obvious churches and mosques etc are often useful navigational landmarks.
Waste and recycling are unlikely to be particularly subject to any immediate changes while pubs and retail are in a mild state of turmoil following pandemic (on top of longer term changes of shopping and drinking habits)

DX

Denise Xenia Wed 15 Sep 2021 11:21PM

I’ll participate