Quarterly Project 2021Q4
Anyone have any thoughts on topics for the next quarter? It'll be October/November/December so probably best to have a topic that we can do remote, with the colder weather. There are some good topics mentioned in the past [1] [2], that we may want to do this time. We could also revisit old projects if there is interest in doing that.
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RobJN Wed 15 Sep 2021 8:13PM
You could ask for data from the owner of some of the big brands. M&B own quite a few brands that I'm sure you'll recognise: https://www.mbplc.com/ourbrands/
Cj Malone Thu 16 Sep 2021 7:43AM
I've already collected (copyrighted) data from some of them and got it into Chain Reaction. If this becomes the QP, I'll put the rest at the top of my TODO list and request a copyright waver.
Poll Created Wed 15 Sep 2021 4:22PM
QP 2021Q4 Closed Wed 22 Sep 2021 4:04PM
Waste and Recycling won this round. I'm look forward to seeing what you all map.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UK_Quarterly_Project/2021/2021_Q4_Project:_Waste_and_Recyling
What topic do you want to focus on for the next 3 months?
Results
Results | Option | Rank | % of points | Points | Mean | ||
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Waste and Recycling | 1 | 29.4% | 97 | 2.9 | ||
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Retail | 2 | 25.5% | 84 | 2.5 | ||
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Pubs | 3 | 24.5% | 81 | 2.5 | ||
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Places of Worship | 4 | 20.6% | 68 | 2.1 | ||
Undecided | 0% | 0 | 0 |
33 of 113 people have participated (29%)
trigpoint Wed 15 Sep 2021 4:25PM
1 - Retail | ||
2 - Pubs | ||
3 - Waste and Recycling | ||
4 - Places of Worship |
Retail in particular has had a rough time over the last 18 months, and mappers have been avoiding many such areas. It is important that we see what is there as we probably have a very outdated map in that category
joeldn Wed 15 Sep 2021 4:25PM
1 - Waste and Recycling | ||
2 - Places of Worship | ||
3 - Pubs | ||
4 - Retail |
ordered in roughly ascending order of climate damage
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jambamkin Wed 15 Sep 2021 4:25PM
1 - Waste and Recycling | ||
2 - Places of Worship | ||
3 - Retail | ||
4 - Pubs |
Just think 'recycling' is more public good
Mat Attlee Wed 15 Sep 2021 4:25PM
1 - Waste and Recycling | ||
2 - Places of Worship | ||
3 - Pubs | ||
4 - Retail |
Focus on the environment but also aware lots of places of worship aren't mapped
Gregory Marler (former Director) Wed 15 Sep 2021 4:25PM
1 - Places of Worship | ||
2 - Pubs | ||
3 - Waste and Recycling | ||
4 - Retail |
By the time this poll closes, my rather detailed tutorial on mapping Places of Worship will be live on Mapper Diaries.
I'm equally happy "surveying" pubs. 😆
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Andy Allan Wed 15 Sep 2021 4:25PM
1 - Retail | ||
2 - Waste and Recycling | ||
3 - Places of Worship | ||
4 - Pubs |
retail has high turnover and is good to revisit regularly.
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Andrew Ross Wed 15 Sep 2021 4:25PM
1 - Pubs | ||
2 - Retail | ||
3 - Waste and Recycling | ||
4 - Places of Worship |
Significant changes in pubs and retail since COVID
SK53 Wed 15 Sep 2021 4:25PM
1 - Places of Worship | ||
2 - Waste and Recycling | ||
3 - Retail | ||
4 - Pubs |
Open Data file found by eteb3 helps with former which is also an area of POIs still with lacunae. Retail & Pubs have been done to death as projects & dont work at all for areas which are well mapped, whereas locating minor churches, mosques etc is still worth doing
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Paul Berry Wed 15 Sep 2021 4:25PM
1 - Waste and Recycling | ||
2 - Retail | ||
3 - Pubs | ||
4 - Places of Worship |
There was a brief burst of interest around recycling centres back in March so we should look to continue this.
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Richard Alexander Cook Wed 15 Sep 2021 4:25PM
1 - Places of Worship | ||
2 - Pubs | ||
3 - Retail | ||
4 - Waste and Recycling |
I think we need some on the ground mapping this quarter, Places of Worship will hopefully clear up a few nameless objects (Robert Whittaker's site says there are 3926 nameless). Pubs and Retail might still be a bit changeable, but FHRS might help there. Waste and Recycling needs a better explanation of the task.
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Jez Nicholson Wed 15 Sep 2021 4:25PM
1 - Waste and Recycling | ||
2 - Places of Worship | ||
3 - Pubs | ||
4 - Retail |
Have been building uk.wastemap.org with others and has sparked my interest in all things waste processing
Tony Shield Wed 15 Sep 2021 4:25PM
1 - Retail | ||
2 - Pubs | ||
3 - Waste and Recycling | ||
4 - Places of Worship |
There has been high rates of churn in retail recently. Can we have clarity of marking empty shops - node with shop=vacant??
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Ed Loach Wed 15 Sep 2021 4:25PM
1 - Retail | ||
2 - Waste and Recycling | ||
3 - Places of Worship | ||
4 - Pubs |
Ranked based on what needs most work manually - lots of retail churn over the pandemic so lots of resurveying needed.
Edward Bainton Wed 15 Sep 2021 4:25PM
1 - Pubs | ||
2 - Retail | ||
3 - Waste and Recycling | ||
4 - Places of Worship |
My hunch is pubs stand the best chance of engagement from people who aren't regular mappers: lots of folk are concerned at their local eatery closing up, and would be pleased to get it on the map as soft advertising if it's still going.
Retail needs lots of ground survey, and there's a lot of churn to deal with.
Places of worship would be better done when/if the GRO dataset becomes usable.
Jack Gilmore Mon 20 Sep 2021 9:43PM
1 - Waste and Recycling | ||
2 - Retail | ||
3 - Pubs | ||
4 - Places of Worship |
Have been working on building https://openwastemap.uk and it would be great to see some more data updated on OSM to update the map
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Andrew Black Wed 15 Sep 2021 4:25PM
1 - Retail | ||
2 - Pubs | ||
3 - Waste and Recycling | ||
4 - Places of Worship |
A lot of change to retail during COVID era. Now may be time things are stabilising.
Yorvik Prestigitor Wed 15 Sep 2021 4:25PM
1 - Places of Worship | ||
2 - Waste and Recycling | ||
3 - Pubs | ||
4 - Retail |
For future votes it would be useful to know what resources are available to support different project options.
Places of worship like the more obvious churches and mosques etc are often useful navigational landmarks.
Waste and recycling are unlikely to be particularly subject to any immediate changes while pubs and retail are in a mild state of turmoil following pandemic (on top of longer term changes of shopping and drinking habits)
Denise Xenia Wed 15 Sep 2021 11:21PM
I’ll participate
Cj Malone · Wed 15 Sep 2021 4:50PM
Fair enough, we'll just collect the data ourselves, and we can always use FHRS Open Data for address data and to help with identifying closed/new pubs.
FHRS Open Data currently lists 53,958 pub, bar or nightclub. OSM has 39,183 pubs, 5,509 bars and 1,060 nightclubs (=45,752). So we are surprisingly close with 8,206 less, but we can close that gap.