Upgrade and Update Our Constitution?
So our Constitution http://ipnz.github.io/Docs/ConstitutionAndRules/#1-definitions needs to bereviewed. What suggested changes would you like to see?
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Jo Booth Mon 21 May 2018 10:32AM
All good, technically @suziedawson is interim Party President, pending a by-election to elect a new one. the tweet announcement only fitted 140 chars, but much exec discussion was entered into before making the call. Yes the constitution doesn't help much with it - Suzie was a full member when brought into exec.
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Daymond Goulder-Horobin Tue 22 May 2018 2:14AM
It was offered if you needed more clarification, that is all. The Trio was dealt with last year using a process and they, for some reason continue to persist. Full members have rights to any information they need to make decisions on so its there.
However, at any rate, The current exec is focused on the future of the party and not lamenting on the past. Our Facebook is still very much active and we will continue to rebuild ourselves further so that in the 2020 election we have a good foundation to work with.
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Mason Bee Tue 22 May 2018 6:47AM
So do you think need changes to be made to the constitution in order to promote the parties future? Have you faced problems while exec where you thought the constitution was unclear or lacking?
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Jo Booth Mon 26 Nov 2018 10:11AM
Quite often when faced with something that needed clarity from the constitution I found it lacked the definitive black and white. I suppose thats where bylaws come in - formalising the “way we run it” where the constitution is unclear, but apart from the revolving president / chair and ex-officio members getting a vote (consensus!), we havent really had too many hard situations. Usually there is enough guidance, just not enough clarity.
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Mason Bee Sun 2 Dec 2018 5:22AM
As far as I am aware we don't have any by-laws.....or at least I have asked for them and never received them and they have to be memberly available.
Mason Bee · Mon 21 May 2018 8:47AM
Technically we had a party president for some of that time as well. At the same time I am unsure whether Suzie is able to continue as Party President as the constitution specifies the nominees must be full members which she doesn't appear to be able to be. I am still of two minds of this. For instance the constitution deson't appear to say how the Party President is elected...can it be anyone....from anywhere? I don't know. I am asking Jo for clarification. Perhaps this would be a good amendment to the constitution as well.
In terms of the Trio, if you want to throw libel and slander around then do something about it. There is a process, use it. Please don't offer me archived content. Either it is public and available or private to the exec in which case it shouldn't be offered. Personally I think all exec content should be public...at least to members.
Discord does have more people commenting than Loomio. How many are New Zealanders is hard to say. Remember this is a New Zealand party and a party on the ropes at the moment. In the last election we got 500 votes. Assuming all those votes are members we are one member off not being a party. Not a good situation.
Now you could take this as an attack on the exec or not. I would prefer not. I am tryign to point out these ...uncomfortable points....in order to better the party constitution. In paragraph one amend it, two use it, and three involves saving the party itself.