Ban Judges from wearing Black Robes- bright or neutral colours only
Black has always been associated with death- people wear black to funerals (and office jobs). Black has also historically been the colour associated with the Planet Saturn and Saturnian worship. The ancient Greeks used a Black Cube to symbolise the planet Saturn, which they referred to as "Khronos", or the "Time Keeper". This is where the word "Crown" came from- a reference to the "dark satellite", or "the Dark Lord", Saturn. I believe it would be more conducive to 'fair hearings' and 'justice' if we remove all references, whether intended or not, to Saturnian worship in our Courts and Justice system. This should include no more references to "the Crown" (from the Greek 'Khronos'), no more Black Robes (bright, friendly or at least neutral colours only), and no more Court buildings built in the shape of Cubes (from the Greek Black Cube of Saturn). Anyone unsure about these facts, please feel free to research them for yourselves. The Sensible Sentencing Trust has raised very serious questions in recent years about Judicial decisions that seem to almost encourage and promote death and violence in our communities (such as the Christie Marceau bail decision RIP) - having a Juwdiciary that dresses in black and uses symbols and references that could be seen to be Saturnian in nature does not encourage any faith in these civil servants, and thus should be removed. Please vote 'Agree' to make Judges wear bright, friendly, or neutral colours in OUR tax payer funded Courts. Thank you.

Rangi Kemara Thu 3 Jul 2014 12:45AM
To the rest of us, black robes are something worn by the character on Sesame Street called the Count ( I think he is supposed to be a figurative representation of a neighbourhood pimp ).
The whole black and scarlet robes garb is just stuffy old inner temple, colonial, British empire getup from yesteryear. Its mostly ceremonial now, but the district, employment and high court judges have to wear them.
The issue though is, this is court etiquette, what place has the legislative branch of Government to interfere with the judicial branches stuffy old attire?

Colin Davies Thu 3 Jul 2014 2:04AM
@cohenglass I agree entirely with your argument. However I dispute that judges wore black robes consistently prior to the late 17th century in England. Thus I find the connection to Saturn to be very tenuous. And I believe it became more of a tradition after the death of Queen Mary II when people wore black as a sign of mourning and also to please the King.
There has been for centuries a joke that the legal profession have never been ordered out of mourning and so this is why they wear black.
But anyhow I really think if you wish to change the color of judges robes it would be better to petition the judiciary, than to use legislation to change this. For similar sentiments as to what @terangikaiwhiriake suggested.
Cohen Glass Thu 3 Jul 2014 4:48AM
@colindavies cheers Colin - my facts are correct. Interestingly, it was around the 1700's that some of these occult groups combined, so there is some truth in what you say. The Bar Association for example is the British Son's of Ra (the Amun Ra Cult of Egypt). Its all occult symbolism my friend - please feel free to research what I have said, as it is fact. And we should seek to eradicate all occultism from our system of Governance. Including all influence from Baby London/Babylon. Its long time she fell. Not least her International Banking system, run from the privately owned City of London (the Temple). My policy suggestion represents a start on eradicating all these occult/ privately owned groups from our governance. Regards.

Aaron Singline Thu 3 Jul 2014 8:58PM
Judges should just have the freedom to wear what ever they want.

Marc Whinery Thu 3 Jul 2014 9:06PM
@cohenglass "And we should seek to eradicate all occultism from our system of Governance."
Why? Why does it matter? What's next, changing the days of the week? Moon's day Tiu's day Woden's day Thor's day Freya's day Saturn's day Sun's day. It's all occultism.
How about we end saluting in the military as well, that was a knightly thing, and we know the Knights Templar are an Illuminati conspiracy favorite, so every salute is a nod to the Illuminati.
And making tertiary free is easier when we close all schools. After all, "Illuminati" means the educated ones, so we should end all schooling in an attempt to slow the Illuminati.
"Sabotage" comes from a type of shoe, so we should ban all shoes to lower the worship of sabotage.
On second thought, rather than eliminating all symbolism from society, it'd be easier to eliminate society from everything. Shut down the Internet and shoot down all satellites that broadcast a signal to NZ. Move everyone to the North Island. Then, when babies are born, they are shipped to the South Island. There they raise themselves free of the shackles of symbolism and education. When they are 18 (presuming they make it there), they may return to the North Island, purified of the shackles of occultism.
Some of this post may have been sarcastic or satire. I will not assist in the identification of either.
Guntram Shatterhand Thu 3 Jul 2014 9:21PM
"The Bar Association for example is the British Son’s of Ra (the Amun Ra Cult of Egypt"
Hilarious.
Cohen Glass Thu 3 Jul 2014 10:45PM
@marcwhinery Hello Marc - personally I think it matters because more and more we see that those at the top of this occultist pyramid are what some would refer to as 'Satanic' in their beliefs, actions and morality. That is what concerns me. If you wanted one simple example, it would be that those running the current system we are in, used their political puppets, banks and media to lie to us all about "WMD's" in Iraq and went on to murder around 1.5 million people. Now @marcwhinery , I do not know you, and I do not judge- but I do think we should all be interested in addressing the issue that at the top of the food chain, are a bunch of war criminals who use occult symbolism and what I would refer to as almost 'Satanic' means to achieve their goals (which are more greed power and control). To me that is quite rational. What I am seeing in these responses however, is that there is a very large contingent of so called 'internet activists' who want 'change', but are actually quite comfortable with war crimes and genocide based on lies etc. Which is very concerning to me. So much so, I think I need to consider withdrawing my membership, support and ideas for the Internet Party, as I have very little interest in nursing what could well turn out to be a whole bunch of spoiled young Kiwis into a new system of governance run by the same criminals as the current one- as that achieves very little in my view. If that is all we are doing here, then we will continue to see the illegal wars, the child abuse, the sexual violence, and all of these Queen's Honors recipients being busted for child abuse and /or fraud (many recent examples), with the exception that the same system is being managed online instead. Which achieves nothing in my view. So again, I invite the trust fund babies to actually research what I have said, instead of resorting to school yard type / child responses. As what I am telling you is fact(often stranger than the fiction you encounter on your play stations).. Short of that, I think I will disband from the Internet Party shortly, as what I see is a whole bunch of 'North Shore' white kids with closed/ brainwashed minds that are beyond help- and I/we are wasting our time. Regards. @hugheldredgrigg

Marc Whinery Thu 3 Jul 2014 11:09PM
@cohenglass "it would be that those running the current system we are in, used their political puppets, banks and media to lie to us all about “WMD’s” in Iraq and went on to murder around 1.5 million people."
So you see a connection between changing the robes from black to technicolor, and the end of "illegal wars"?
" So again, I invite the trust fund babies to actually research what I have said, instead of resorting to school yard type / child responses."
And calling your detractors "trust fund babies" isn't a school yard response?
Your hypocrisy is showing.
"As what I am telling you is fact"
As was what I said. Yet you didn't address any factual points I made, but instead resorted to schoolyard insults and dismissals, then complained when you are treated the same way you've already treated others.
There may be problems. But I have no doubt that chancing the color of the robes or a few names used will have no effect whatsoever on those problems.
"I think I will disband from the Internet Party shortly, as what I see is a whole bunch of ‘North Shore’ white kids with closed/ brainwashed minds that are beyond help- and I/we are wasting our time. Regards."
Oooh, I'm on the Shore. I've lived on the shore for 4 years, and am over 40. Can I still be a "North Shore kid"?
Why is the brain washing greater in the north of Auckland, than Papakura or Timaru? Why is the brainwashing of a white kid greater than an Asian North Shore trust fund baby?
You raise so many interesting questions that I'll never see answers to if you leave.
And I assure you, many here find your posts interesting, even if more towards the amusing side than the informative side of interesting.
I know I'd like to read more. Though the thing lacking here is personal reference. So many have interesting life stories. Something must have happened in your past to explain why you are so adamant about this issue when all you see around you is apathy from the trust fund white kids from the North Shore.
Cohen Glass Thu 3 Jul 2014 11:27PM
I do not have time to try and educate all the white shoe boys on what's going on around the Globe- and thus here. And I am losing faith in the Internet Party as a possible solution when I see these insidious so called 'activists' on here, who take offense at certain facts because they and their well to do, credit card funding parents are in fact part of the same child abuse/ illegal war supporting death cult. We are not going to achieve anything / any real change if the Internet Party is over run with well to do brainwashed fools. Try actually researching what I have said, instead of turning it into an attack. I really can't deal with clowns, or 'North Shore' school kids, have other stuff to do.
Cohen Glass Thu 3 Jul 2014 11:41PM
@marcwhinery Marc- here is more education for you in 60 seconds than you have had in your entire white shoe boy club life - are you ready? I do this for you. .....Begin: The Federal Reserve Bank is a privately owned bank, owned by a very small group of inbred families, which is printing $80 Billion of counterfeit money every month, and using that counterfeit money to control politicians (from both sides) and media across the West and the Globe. The effect of this is two fold 1) prices have doubled in NZ in the past 7 years while wages and benefits have stayed the same - causing stress, violence and child abuse like we have never seen before 2) everything you are being told on the news and by Government is pure lies and propaganda. Now let that sink in for a minute Marc, and then consider this. NOT ONE of the politicians or media stations in NZ will admit, or publish a story or a policy explaining the above problem/reality, bcos they are ALL on the same corrupt gravy train. Thus we as a society are instead going along with the illegal wars and lies, and the record child abuse and murder rate back in NZ instead. Now at the same time Marc, we see more and more reports about the families and people at the top being into such things as pedophilia, friends with and protecting the likes of Jimmy Savile and giving Honors to the likes of Rolph Harris etc. We are now even seeing foreign diplomats who are apparently serial rapists being protected by our own Government, Bill Clinton now on his 6th rape/ pedophilia allegation (Dailymail) while John Key takes photos with him smiling. Marc, I am trying above, to help explain to people like you whats going on, and the people who are behind it. The agenda. So that we may stop it. Because I KNOW the facts. I have done the research. Now what I get back from immature little white shoe boy types is school yard type attacks. Im not in school any more mate- and I'm guessing, neither are you. Do try and research what I have told you, and open up your fluoridated mind - as we need more people to become 'aware' - and actually turn the tide and stop what we are seeing unfold- as opposed to waste each others time with back of the class room type jibes and attacks. Again, I INVITE you to actually research what I have told you, as opposed to behaving like a spoiled little child at the back of the classroom, whose credit card funding parents have warned you to "never actually think" or have an original thought in your life, as that may put your inheritance at risk. Regards.

Marc Whinery Fri 4 Jul 2014 8:55PM
@cohenglass " The Federal Reserve Bank is a privately owned bank, "
In a different country.
Also, unrelated to judges robes.
@cohenglass "owned by a very small group of inbred families, "
As are most companies. You could say the same about Wal-Mart.
@cohenglass "which is printing $80 Billion of counterfeit money every month,"
Of counterfeit what? And if it's invalid, why is it not recognized as such by those who investigate such matters?
@cohenglass "prices have doubled in NZ in the past 7 years while wages and benefits have stayed the same "
You know the facts. Well, can you cite them?
http://www.rbnz.govt.nz/statistics/key_graphs/inflation/
That shows you to be wrong. Can you explain why, and provide any facts that support your opinion?
@cohenglass "Because I KNOW the facts."
Too bad your version of facts doesn't match reality.
@cohenglass "Now what I get back from immature little white shoe boy types is school yard type attacks."
So anyone who disagrees with you is immature and whatever a "white shoe boy type" is.
@cohenglass "Do try and research what I have told you, and open up your fluoridated mind "
The research shows that 100% of people against fluoridation are wrong.
I've done the research.
You obviously haven't.
@cohenglass "Again, I INVITE you to actually research what I have told you,"
I have. You haven't.
@cohenglass " as opposed to behaving like a spoiled little child at the back of the classroom, whose credit card funding parents have warned you to “never actually think” or have an original thought in your life, as that may put your inheritance at risk."
From what I can see, the person calling for others to not throw insults does nothing but. And the person calling for others to think refuses to do so.
But you amuse me. You may continue.
Regards (I like how you end with that, sarcastically, as you regard nothing, like the "I don't mean to offend..." always proceeds something offensive)

Eric O'Kane Sat 2 Aug 2014 11:11PM
Who cares what they wear? There job is to administer justice!

Blair Wed 13 Aug 2014 10:23AM
I must admit: I'm over the whole Darth Vader conundrum.Instead, why not wear a tee-shirt that reads.
Complicit with the 'worlds biggest ever' Conspiracy to deceive the general public.This would offer a modicum of transparency. :)
Cohen Glass Mon 25 Aug 2014 10:55AM
@terangikaiwhiriake Interesting comments Rangi - and shows the problem we have- a very limited view and understanding of the system we live in. You refer to Sesame Street ie) kids stories. Are you aware that Snow White and the 7 dwarfs is in fact a story of the Sun and the 7 visible planets and their astrological effects on earth? Many if not most kids stories are based on astrology- as is the "Britain" you also mention- London being Baby London/ the new Babylon. And Google Zodiac map Glastonbury to get a better understanding. It is a shortage of knowledge which is the problem - and thus why we see the world's (and NZ's) problems getting worse and worse. We need an understanding of this occult/ Babylonian system created around us to affect and improve it. BUt I'm afraid we are not going to make much progress with intellectual minions such as @marcwhinery etc chipping in. All I can do is recommend people actually look up the facts I have stated - as opposed to dismissing stuff they clearly do not understand nor have even checked up on. Cheers

Marc Whinery Tue 26 Aug 2014 12:18AM
@cohenglass Ah yes. Personal attacks for voicing our opinions. Long Live Hitler, I mean @cohenglass
Cohen Glass · Thu 3 Jul 2014 12:20AM
@colindavies Hi Colin- we all seem to have very limited knowledge on the astrological/mythological symbolism used in our society these days - for example, Saturday, is a clear reference to the planet Saturn (as Sunday is to the Sun, and Monday to the Moon etc). Those above who state that my suggestions 'are ridiculous', only show their ignorance. Please feel free to research the facts I have stated and come back and reconsider the issue - which is this- lets stop accepting a Saturian based culture of death, letting killers go free while we lock up dope smokers. It is in fact a very important point/ issue- just expressed through the same symbolism these people use - and because we apparently don't understand it, it is allowed to continue. People need to be informed on this reality- before we can stop the culture of rape, death and violence in NZ- and the people above are ignorant and not of much help. If people were actually informed, or researched the facts above- they would get it. Cheers.