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Sun 13 Sep 2020 5:23PM

Q4 quarterly project 2020 ideas

GL Gareth L Public Seen by 50

It's that time again. The Q3 project of cycle infrastructure will end in early October. Please share your suggestions and ideas for the Q4 project.

Good ideas often include those with an underutilised, suitably licensed, data set.

Ideas have been listed in the wiki page for this, but do not feel limited to it. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:UK_Quarterly_Project

HD

Huw Diprose Wed 23 Sep 2020 11:50AM

I suspect this is one that must have been tried before, so i'm interested if there's history.

But it seems we have a gap around political boundaries. For instance I've been trying to query overpass turbo for nodes within my ward. But it appears that data is only partially present across the UK

I'd suspect this data should be easy to obtain and license.

I think it's important because it would allow users to connect ground truth features in an area to political representatives that might be able to change them. Perhaps a lack of amenities in one ward could be connected to a representative who could then be asked to take action within local government?

I'm particularly interested in wards, but would suggest a candidate list could be something like this:

  • Local government 'electoral division' (wards for parish / district councils, electoral division for county councils) boundaries

  • Directly elected mayors - Boundaries here are likely to be more complicated, in some cases I suspect it maps to the administrative borders of a local authoirty, in other cases it may unite a few (eg London boroughs?)

  • Perhaps police and crime commisioners for Englad and Wales (they map to the 41 police force areas, not sure if there are already administrative boundaries?)

  • Devolved government constituency boundaries (NI Stormont, Senedd, Scottish Parliament?)

  • Parlimentary constituencies - Not sure if these are already mapped?

After that I somewhat lose track of other forms of democracy, city of london has some unusual mechanisms, and there's some older stuff like aldermen and honorific roles i'm even less sure about.

Apologies if i'm re-tredding preivously considered territory here. Happy to take a previous discsusion to go read up on?

DB

Dennis Bauszus Thu 24 Sep 2020 10:50AM

I agree that it would be nice to have political boundaries in OSM. It is a huge pain though to continuously maintain the validity of those boundaries and easy to break boundaries while editing features which are tied to the boundary. I have myself fixed the French and Spanish constitutional admin districts a few years ago and it is a very manual labour. Happy to participate looking at UK admin boundaries.

GL

Gareth L Mon 28 Sep 2020 12:02PM

I'm going to suggest waterways/courses.

I've been doing some mapping in Wales (family nearby) and it highlights to me how much stuff traced from NPE is still there. Waterways change a lot.

There's opendata streetview layer which is very useful for this. The latest Bing imagery is, on the whole, very well aligned when compared to multiple gps traces and streetview layer.

The clarity available is allowing many bridges/culverts and redirected waterways be picked up.

Progress on this might be tricky to quantify though.

GL

Poll Created Mon 5 Oct 2020 6:00PM

Which suggestion(s) could make a successful Q4 project? Closed Thu 8 Oct 2020 5:02PM

Outcome
by Gareth L Thu 8 Oct 2020 5:07PM

By a clear margin, AED/Defibrillators have been selected. Thank you for voting!

Considering the discussion above, and with the resources available.

Results

Results Option % of points Points Mean Voters
AED/Defibrillators 21.7% 13 0.7 20
Waterways 15.0% 9 0.5 20
Heritage features/buildings/plaques 13.3% 8 0.4 20
Brands/Chains 13.3% 8 0.4 20
Modal Filters for ways 11.7% 7 0.4 20
Playgrounds equipment 11.7% 7 0.4 20
EV charging points 8.3% 5 0.3 20
Political/Administrative boundaries 5.0% 3 0.2 20
Undecided 0% 0 0 59

23 of 82 people have participated (28%)

HD

Huw Diprose Mon 5 Oct 2020 6:01PM

1 - Political/Administrative boundaries
1 - Waterways
1 - Playgrounds equipment
0 - Brands/Chains
0 - EV charging points
0 - Modal Filters for ways
0 - Heritage features/buildings/plaques
0 - AED/Defibrillators

Playgrounds and waterways are useful outdoor recreations during lockdown. Political boundaries will connect our ground truths to democratic actions in an area.

T

trigpoint Mon 5 Oct 2020 6:01PM

2 - Heritage features/buildings/plaques
1 - Playgrounds equipment
0 - Brands/Chains
0 - EV charging points
0 - Political/Administrative boundaries
0 - Waterways
0 - Modal Filters for ways
0 - AED/Defibrillators

Items that are common and found within the localities of most mappers

JN

Jez Nicholson Mon 5 Oct 2020 6:01PM

1 - EV charging points
1 - Heritage features/buildings/plaques
1 - AED/Defibrillators
0 - Brands/Chains
0 - Modal Filters for ways
0 - Political/Administrative boundaries
0 - Waterways
0 - Playgrounds equipment

Listed buildings is an existing list, and the tags are ancient and were recently mentioned about possible reform

A

Andy Mon 5 Oct 2020 6:01PM

3 - Modal Filters for ways
0 - Heritage features/buildings/plaques
0 - AED/Defibrillators
0 - Brands/Chains
0 - Political/Administrative boundaries
0 - Waterways
0 - EV charging points
0 - Playgrounds equipment

Modal filters is the most timely

NA

Nick Ananin Mon 5 Oct 2020 6:01PM

AED/Defibrillators can and do save lives

DB

Dennis Bauszus Mon 5 Oct 2020 6:01PM

3 - Brands/Chains
0 - Heritage features/buildings/plaques
0 - AED/Defibrillators
0 - Modal Filters for ways
0 - Political/Administrative boundaries
0 - Waterways
0 - EV charging points
0 - Playgrounds equipment

This is most closely related to my professional work and I believe I will be able to provide most value to this project.

PB

Paul Berry Mon 5 Oct 2020 6:01PM

1 - AED/Defibrillators
1 - Waterways
1 - Playgrounds equipment
0 - EV charging points
0 - Political/Administrative boundaries
0 - Modal Filters for ways
0 - Heritage features/buildings/plaques
0 - Brands/Chains

These three types of OSM object are near me, and I'm already mapping them sporadically, so I'm already committed to seeing coverage through.

R

RobJN Sat 10 Oct 2020 8:59PM

Useful resource for anyone wanting to see if we can get hold of more data for the quarterly project. Let us know if you intend to contact any of these. https://www.suddencardiacarrestuk.org/uk-aed-map/