Climate action groups, zero waste, just transition, regenerative communities, whole-systems design, design justice, decolonization & tino rangatiratanga, alternative currencies like timebanks... who else?

We are hoping that some people within those communities may naturally sidle in here, but there will definitely be a point where reaching out will happen, especially if there is political action where allyship makes sense.

The trickster: Sowing cultural seeds through postering, pamphlets & paraphernalia

Love this Aaron. We made a bunch of posters around food sov with Open Homes but never got around to putting them up…

Could we borrow elements from the charter discussion document to inspire this?

Reckon all ingredients are welcome in that pot, so for sure

I'm up for helping you put them up in AK and would happily do so further North... Beauty is we could disseminate digital files amongst the network so they could be rolled out around the country if people were keen.

We can discuss further in an ideas thread once the Loomio space is better structured.

As far as the politics of food is concerned....I would be keen to know whether the charter has a role to play? Could be a starting point? Would be happy to see it evolve or take a new shape with new energy...

Guess I feel my 2c is that a charter is something that happens down the line more, once we've done a lot more relationship-building and outreach etc

Sorry, me again... some sort of notice board thread would be great. A place to offer or seek... materials, labor, work, land sharing..... Perhaps a broader version of the 'resource sharing' thread suggested?

I'm into this. Could be a tidy way to include all of those sort of sharing/support/opportunity threads

@Aaron McLean I think a noticeboard thread is a great idea

Hi everybody, not 100% sure where to post these couple of questions / suggestions, which is the point of this poll I guess - to make a more coherent space within which to interact, and hopefully facilitate some real world face to face - so I'll post them here.

Firstly, there is a group here who are obviously keen to participate in this kaupapa. Perhaps for the moment, instead of jumping platform as we have discussed, we could start a subgroup within this existing loomio space, and then set up the threads we agree on there and those who are keen to continue being in dialogue could congregate there? That way we could stop spamming 83 people from the original 'Charter' group, not all of whom will be keen on this new direction. Of course the door would always be open, it would be easy for those who did want to jup across to do so as it would be adjacent, and the smaller group could post into the larger occasionally if there is something relevant to say.

Secondly, I wonder whether the thing to do with this poll is to use it as data to discuss at our next hui? We could start a single new thread for Zui / online meeting, post details of the meeting and then collectively shape a coherent loomio space within which to connect and interact with insights gleaned from the poll. Hopefully that could be an end to this foundational / admin phase, cause we want to get to the getting together / having fun part of the equation I'm sure...

Just a couple of seeds...🌱

I'm supportive of both of these steps. Polls definitely a clunky tool in this context

I think this also refers back to the conversation that was started online...how do we manage the community, especially the inactive members? We have had 16 people vote and a few people comment and not vote...so approx 20 people engaged...brilliant. Also means approx 80 people not engaged/active.

I guess migrating solves that issue, as it just shifts everything away from here....but it still feels like there is an opportunity to send an email out to everyone saying "Hey, this is what is going on...do you want to be part of it or would it be nice for you to not be bothered by us anymore?"

We may get a better understanding of the reasons why people are not engaging....rather than assuming they are not interested ,too busy etc...this may help us adapt the space to engage people.

I don't think we should manage anybody/thing, rather create space that enables dialogue between people keen to engage with each other.

I guess the point is that everybody already gets an email every time we post here, so this is already all very transparent - and by shuffling the conversation sideways under the same umbrella, it's very easy for people to pop over and participate if they're keen. So it stops the spamming but leaves the door wide open.

But it's just an idea we should discuss as a group when we next meet.

It could be worth sending one invitation/update email (bcc folks so it doesn't become a conversation space); especially to include those who have loomio emails hidden or ignore them as not a priority. One email with a clear subject line about what's going on - and link to the active members' subgroup - could mark a clear phase shift.

Fair call re those potentially not receiving or engaged with loomio emails, sounds like a solid strategy should everybody decide to move this into an adjacent subgroup.

Yes, keen for leaving the door wide open if possible - thank you. I'm 5 hours late to the poll and I'm anxious for missing a week plus of activity that I'm catching up on now, but am very keen to support this whole thing and to be able to contribute whenever possible. Also, for want of a better place to raise this question, would 'how to influence government policy?' fall into brainstorming alliance actions? Keen for this topic and brainstorming... Maybe lobbying local council is better...? etc, etc.

I like that suggestion @Ruth Heath for instance many complementary strategies sharing outcomes and learnings with each other and taking collaborative action at various levels or through different vehicles. Might fit within politics but folks taking a direct action strategy might not respond to that topic naming.

Also hearing that perhaps a summary email (with clear invitations?) could be easier for folks who haven't been in a position to follow this conversation live.

True. ' Collaborative Community and/or Direct Action Strategies' and 'Communities working with local governance Strategies' (or the like) could be topics?

Gathering locally to do the mahi locally

Great poll! i was six minute late to fill it out lol - that's how organised i am when it comes to my emails. oops

Nice to see the engagement in this poll. I guess I've landed a fly in the ointment by asking the questions above re the potential of a subgroup, (which definitely has cons as well as pros - it would be a pity to loose the existing introductions if we moved for instance), and whether to use the data as a face to face discussion point or info for action.

This makes it hard for Dan to act on his poll. Sorry! Any feedback from the group as to whether we just open threads that met a certain threshold, with the option of the space continuing to evolve? Or is there an appetite for waiting until we meet and refining the space there and then?

Meeting to refine and discuss could be good? Also could be good to keep all current threads open and as they are, add the new topics from polls (with any other suggestions?), allowing it to evolve as it goes, with the monthly hui as forums to any calls to action, change, (from anything discussed in the meantime on here) or anyone interested in anything related to AFAA, etc?

We could have it as a monthly agenda item for the monthly hui...a check in to see which threads are active, which aren't and what is missing.

Rather than creating another poll...I believe the suggestion to discuss this in the next online hui is the way to go.

There is the ability to shift the threads to a group....so we can migrate existing threads to a new sub group.

I've also been wondering about this @Michael Reynolds and whether that might enable us to orgainse things better. Hadn't been sure whether Loomio would allow us to do so.. There might be an argument to keep the space we have as an intro space, then have some key of subgroups that associated threads could the sit within. Perhaps that would enable people to start their own discussion threads within those groups. For instance all decision making in one subgroup - propositions, polls, hui / minutes in a 'Collective Decision Making' subgroup. It's hard to articulate here, I've drawn a very quick little plan to try to show what I mean.

Can't open that file type on a PC...sorry

Replaced with jpg you should be able to see now :)