Naming!!! We have a lot of concepts to communicate... This is a thread to debate them :-D
"Language Manifests Reality"
- Josh Fairhead
What's in a name... a rose by any other name would smell just as sweet right? Actually thats bull shit. If a "rose" was called "dead rotting rat", it would not smell as sweet. Just like how meals taste better when they have an artful presentation, concepts are better communicated when they are artfully and intentionally worded.
"Names are Spells"
- Danibelle
Please feel free to create Polls around naming concepts!
Poll Created Fri 14 Dec 2018 3:20AM
Dee Ay See or DACK Closed Fri 21 Dec 2018 3:03AM
Decentralized Altruistic Community is quite the mouthful... its nice to use an acronym, but how do we say the name?
Results
Results | Option | % of points | Voters | |||
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DAC is said: Dee Ay See | 75.0% | 9 | |||
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DAC is said: DACK | 25.0% | 3 | |||
Undecided | 0% | 31 |
12 of 43 people have participated (27%)
Griff Green Fri 14 Dec 2018 3:21AM
I think it sounds sweeter and smoother, DACK sounds harsh
Jeff Emmett Fri 14 Dec 2018 4:30PM
Simplicity is key when users are involved! 3 syllables compared to one makes "dack" the winner for me. Few people say "Dee Eh Oh" for DAO to my knowledge, and if that's what we're modeling the term after, I would say the convention to say it as one word follows through.
Josh Fairhead Fri 14 Dec 2018 4:52PM
If we use abbreviation I'm for the shortest/easiest possible
Loie Thu 20 Dec 2018 11:16AM
in lazy moments i might say dack but all front facing interactions get D-A-C because of clarity/approachability. Bowen said it well.
Griff Green Thu 27 Dec 2018 5:49PM
Community meeting to town hall
Kay Sat 29 Dec 2018 11:29AM
I really like community meeting actually. town hall makes no sense for me as we are no town :) ... if you really like that we could name it town hall twice a year when we meet IRL for meetings - so I think we should keep town-hall in mind, but prefer community meeting for our weekly meeting
Poll Created Wed 2 Jan 2019 8:38PM
How do we type DAI denominations in the wiki? (possibly elsewhere) Closed Sun 6 Jan 2019 8:02PM
100 DAI (with space)
Non crypto people may need to understand what DAI is in the wiki. How do we wish to write DAI in the wiki so we are not too confusing?
Results
Results | Option | % of points | Voters | |||
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Add your own | 44.4% | 4 | |||
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$100 DAI | 33.3% | 3 | |||
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100DAI | 11.1% | 1 | |||
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100 DAI | 11.1% | 1 | |||
$100DAI | 0.0% | 0 | ||||
100DAI ($) | 0.0% | 0 | ||||
Undecided | 0% | 34 |
9 of 43 people have participated (20%)
Bowen Sanders Wed 2 Jan 2019 8:59PM
100 DAI - I agree it looks best with a space - but I think DAI Stablecoin is known to be a $1 / 1 DAI conversion. You can see https://medium.com/cryptolinks/maker-for-dummies-a-plain-english-explanation-of-the-dai-stablecoin-e4481d79b90 for more info. Even exchanges only use the coin name.
Adam Stallard Thu 3 Jan 2019 7:22AM
If you want to make a clear link in people's minds that what is being sent is equivalent to dollars, then $100 DAI works fine. Crypto-savvy people will also know what you mean.
Kay Thu 3 Jan 2019 5:26PM
There is a space between the amount and the denominater I hope =) ... i.e. 100 DAI
Kay Thu 3 Jan 2019 5:27PM
There is a space between the amount and the denominater I hope =) ... i.e. 100 DAI
Josh Fairhead Thu 3 Jan 2019 6:59PM
100 DAI (looks best with a space). Changed my vote as per meeting :)
Poll Created Mon 4 Feb 2019 2:44PM
Change Milestone to something else Closed Fri 15 Feb 2019 3:01AM
The UX audit surfaced an important piece... that the term milestone is pigeonhole-ing the use of our platform for roadmap style usage... we should consider changing the name!
Pick your favorite, and add an option if you can think of any!
Results
Results | Option | % of points | Voters | |||
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Milestone | 22.9% | 8 | |||
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Action | 17.1% | 6 | |||
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Task | 11.4% | 4 | |||
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Action Item | 8.6% | 3 | |||
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Project | 5.7% | 2 | |||
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Job | 5.7% | 2 | |||
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Mission | 5.7% | 2 | |||
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Goal | 5.7% | 2 | |||
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Proposal | 2.9% | 1 | |||
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Bid | 2.9% | 1 | |||
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Bounty | 2.9% | 1 | |||
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Bucket | 2.9% | 1 | |||
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Payment | 2.9% | 1 | |||
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Initiative | 2.9% | 1 | |||
Offer | 0.0% | 0 | ||||
Undecided | 0% | 30 |
14 of 44 people have participated (31%)
Griff Green Mon 4 Feb 2019 3:04PM
Maybe we should broadly call them proposals
, actions
or buckets
or whatever... but then name different types... Like right now we have Bounties
, and soon we will have an option without reviewers, which might be best know as a Fund
...
Loie Mon 4 Feb 2019 3:10PM
Bucket is the term used by Cobudget - in our system I think it makes more sense for campaigns than for milestones
Kris is Mon 4 Feb 2019 3:36PM
Could we please not just change terms 'quick quick' in the DApp that are used in all articles both by us and others, on the wiki, many many many recorded talks and YouTube descriptions, not to mention in about 500 places in the dapp without it being part of a wider, written out strategy? I get the logic but can we do this at the appropriate time if needed, when revising the building blocks? If not I propose the initiator of the proposal (you 🙂) also makes sure this term is updated throughout
Jeff Emmett Mon 4 Feb 2019 5:08PM
Maybe I'm getting too deep into this, but I think we need to define the nested structure of these levels of organization, rather than just defining one level. I would say the order that makes sense to me (in the context of charities who may want to use our platform) is:
Campaign >> Milestones >> Tasks
So a campaign could be to "Trash Hero Thailand"
One milestone within that campaign could be "Clean up Railay Beach"
And one task within that milestone could be "Organize materials for cleanup"
Jeff Emmett Mon 4 Feb 2019 5:09PM
Maybe I'm getting too deep into this, but I think we need to define the nested structure of these levels of organization, rather than just defining one level. I would say the order that makes sense to me (in the context of charities who may want to use our platform) is:
Campaign >> Milestones >> Tasks
So a campaign could be "Trash Hero Thailand"
One milestone within that campaign could be "Clean up Railay Beach"
And one task within that milestone could be "Organize materials for cleanup"
Don Adams Mon 4 Feb 2019 5:41PM
"Action item" is the most accurate in my mind, but it doesn't really roll off the tongue. "Accomplishment" kind of captures this meaning but sounds a little presumptuous. "Deed" kind of captures it too but sounds funky for some reason, so I'd say "task" or "job" make the most sense to use
Adam Stallard Mon 4 Feb 2019 5:51PM
I'm going with "Job" because only one person gets paid for each of these completed--i.e. they are individual. In practice, they could be already completed or a proposal for future work, so "proposal" doesn't always fit. "Job" can encompass several "tasks" which these can do.
Dani Mon 4 Feb 2019 5:58PM
I agree with Jeff's breakdown - a task, action, deed or job is a sub-item within a Milestone. I like Milestone best, with Mission and Goal following in favor. Project works as a Campaign can have multiple projects.. A n equivalent (doesn't appear I can add options?) would be Activity or Initiative, which can be comprised of multiple actions/tasks.
Michael Roberts Mon 4 Feb 2019 7:07PM
I like Jeff and Dani's breakdown. That's the way I've often seen it in project management tools. I would not recommend we change this label in isolation however. For example if we changed the label from milestone to project then someone else might ask what is the difference between a project and a campaign. This also makes me wonder if Loomio is the best tool for these kinds of decisions. Is this binding or simply ideas for another circle.
Pol Lanski Mon 4 Feb 2019 10:39PM
Definitely not "Project" as that's sort of what a campaign is!
Kay Wed 6 Feb 2019 2:17PM
I think I prefer the "action focused" language and propose to call it "the work" or "work"
Griff Green Thu 14 Feb 2019 3:58AM
Maybe we should broadly call them proposals
, actions
or buckets
or whatever... but then name different types... Like right now we have Bounties
, and soon we will have an option without reviewers, which might be best know as a Fund
...
Loie Wed 6 Feb 2019 2:08PM
for those of you that couldn't figure out how to add items - try after you vote the first time. For me this is always how it works, i have to vote once and then the add options button appears.
Poll Created Thu 7 Feb 2019 10:48AM
Changing "Support" to something else Closed Fri 15 Feb 2019 4:02AM
What should we call it?
From the UX audit, the wording of support in this context is justifiably a poor choice...
Results
Results | Option | % of points | Voters | |||
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How can we improve? | 23.5% | 4 | |||
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Problem? | 17.6% | 3 | |||
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Create an Issue | 11.8% | 2 | |||
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Having trouble? | 11.8% | 2 | |||
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Need help? | 11.8% | 2 | |||
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Tell us your problems | 5.9% | 1 | |||
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Issue? | 5.9% | 1 | |||
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Help us get better! | 5.9% | 1 | |||
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Tech Support | 5.9% | 1 | |||
Y do we Suck? | 0.0% | 0 | ||||
Undecided | 0% | 35 |
9 of 44 people have participated (20%)
Griff Green Thu 7 Feb 2019 4:00PM
We should autofill the title and description too
Loie Thu 14 Feb 2019 4:30PM
It depends what our goal is with this button. General feedback? Tech support? It currently leads to an empty new issue. This won't work for most non-technical people; "What's github and what the heck do I do with these fields?? Oh well this clearly isn't for me"
I really like projects I've seen where when you click the support button or create a new issue at all, there is ghost text in the body of the issue that guides them thru what to write & attach.
Loie Thu 14 Feb 2019 4:32PM
It depends what our goal is with this button. General feedback? Tech support? It currently leads to an empty new issue. This won't work for most non-technical people; "What's github and what the heck do I do with these fields?? Oh well this clearly isn't for me"
I really like projects I've seen where when you click the support button or create a new issue at all, there is ghost text in the body of the issue that guides them thru what to write & attach.
Bowen Sanders · Fri 14 Dec 2018 8:27PM
I agree on pronouncing "DAO" because it had connotations beyond pronouncing an abbreviation. DAC on the other hand doesn't even sound nice. Everyone also knows what a DAO is at this point so you can shorten it that way, but DAC is not as recognized at this point. I think it would provoke more conversation and explanation if we say D-A-C...