Maybe it would help to copy and paste them into the CoC and Reporting Guidelines drafts?

Maybe a stand alone reference doc would be better. That way it doesn't become the sole focus of the revisions. There are many others who weren't part of the previous iterations that may come to weigh in and they should be afforded the ability to interface with the drafts as they stand (or as they progress depending on their timing).

I agree with @edsummers that it would be constructive and "useful to see a summary of the issues with the current draft that came up in previous discussion, and which prompted the revision."

Thanks Ed, for being willing to review and collect those sentiments, suggestions, critiques, etc.

I have served on the Code of Conduct development committee for professional American Sign Language interpreters. Not sure if that'll be particularly relevant; just disclosing. Boundaries are a big deal in terms of respecting autonomy, individuality, cultural differences etc, knowing when to mediate (leave it be for interactants to work through or help with reframing or some other repair strategy), and when discipline is needed (holding the line on the permissability/impermissability of a particular behavior).

Thank you. Seems very relevant and glad to have your contributions to the process.

The thread on Content Warnings may be relevant? https://www.loomio.org/d/d8zrZIVb/content-warnings-anonymous-poll

Also, I see that @mayel mentioned something happening in a thread on Block and Abstain....I can't locate that thread; not sure how it ties in to CoC (except in a general way)...?

Hi all -- where we at? I have a bunch of notes that I gleaned from some previous threads. @edsummers are you gathering something similar?

I'm wondering if the Code should begin with a kind of disclaimer ... e.g.,

"We've sought to anticipate areas of concern and have provided clear guidelines for what is acceptable and unacceptable behavior within social coop/mastodon. We expect that things will arise which we have not foreseen or which we have not yet clarified the boundaries. Please be advised that if you post something deemed questionable and NOT already covered, there will be an open (?) process using your posting as the flashpoint for defining appropriate/inappropriate behavior."

Hi Stephanie -- since I haven't participated in the discussions I didn't feel comfortable trying to characterize them. But I'm glad you have posted them as comments to the doc, that's the perfect place!

Ah, @edsummers I see your additional comment. I disagree, however! We need outside eyeballs on the process and construction, not just insiders :)

I have posted comments to the google doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YNXdnDTRz897rXRHoTGwaeoFfZI7-_cwplF2qvy-W8Q/edit#

Also made comments on the Reporting Guide: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pZTXsGuWNTe5X6z_DytJZTbjOyJUT4HlvPPnfmbuPEw/edit

Hi Stephanie! Great to see your comments. I was talking with Manuela and she suggested setting up a call so we can get back in motion on this. Your comments are helpful for getting us started up again.

Hello -- I'm new to this thread and indeed to the community working group. I'm drawn to this thread through deep interest and experience in governance as well as wellbeing, and their interaction. I would be delighted to see something restorative being put together (or, following Enspiral "transformative") which did not have an "offender" being "punished" with "exclusion" as an end point, but with a healing process that, if at all possible, brought any one who strays back into the fold, with acceptance and some joy. Sure, as a starting point we need quick and decisive actions to prevent harm from proliferating. It's what we do after that, short term and longer term, that matters dearly to me. Simple permanent exclusion heals nothing. What does heal? What brings people back into connection, so that their contribution can again be valued? Or see it another way: what do we imagine as the context of the Code of Conduct?

Yeah, I'm the one that brought up Restorative Justice, a movement I learned about recently but embrace deeply. The details and concepts aren't that simple, but it's far more human than bureaucratic. https://restorativejustice.org/ seems to be the best resource though I don't like their site design (makes it hard to get to the meat of it).

I'd like to see those values fully worked into this (and I don't think any CoC has done that yet).

Aaron, can you be on the call?

@meltheadorable Can you make the phone call?

Ya’all—what’s happening with the phone call? @mattnoyes

Looks like our best time is probably the third slot on June 9th, given that Aaron and Melody are both available and have played important roles in the discussion. If there are no objections today, I will post that outcome. @manuelabosch any possibility of that slot for you?

Hi all. Matt N. and I talked about running this call to develop a proposal for a process on how to bring the CoC to a point to go operational. So it's about figuring out together a good way on how to further work on this. It's not to work on CoC itself!

I propose to structure the call as follows. It's how I usually work with groups to figure out solutions everyone can agree on. I am open to do it differently, too.
Arrival & CHECK-IN Round (10min)
1: RECAP What do we already have achieved? What are the current complex questions? (10min)
2: VISION: Collecting ideas on how run/finish this process best. (20min)
3: FOCUS/TASKS: Sorting, prioritizing the ideas (20min)
4: Discuss STEPS/TIMELINE (25min)
CHECK-OUT (5min)

Would be great if someone could prepare 1: Recap and send it around before the call. Who would like to do that?
I would prepare facilitation as proposed, if I hear no concerns.
We can use this Zoom link https://zoom.us/j/9237018313
For the time of the call: yes, we can go for the third option on Monday 9th, it will be late for me, 11pm, I hope I am still fit enough :-)

6 PM Berlin Time ist it. Great. Just in case here again the Zoom link where we meet: https://zoom.us/j/9237018313

Shouldn't that be JULY 9th? :) Also, 16 UTC seems doable I'll do my best to be home by that time.

June 9th UMT = July 9th UTC (!!)

Stephanie, sorry for the confusion. The call is 50 minutes from now, at 16:00 UTC. Hope you can join.

Code of Conduct chat live now: https://zoom.us/j/9237018313

Sorry I missed the call, lost track of time in morning routine! :slight_frown:

We missed you but will soon be in touch...