Best is cjenscook@googlemail.com for me

Want to say Hi, Just found you all. Count me in. Going to take a bit to catch up and get us to speed. From what I've read so far, have some good minds here !

My email is timamcdonald@gmail.com

Can Wikimedia or Mozilla make an open source p2p version at low cost for everyone to use? The software already exists just need their communities to set up and use?! So much extra value can be created;) www.whymandesign.wordpress.com

Would love to be added to the Slack channel, please. kirsten at kirstenlambertsen dotcom Thanks!

Hi @samtoland , I'd love to be added to the slack channel; please, thanks, and much gratitude to your efforts and others here!

Chiming in to say that Loomio is great for decision-making and talking things through in a deeper, well-documented way. But the people who've mentioned that it doesn't replace chat and project management tools are absolutely correct. On the Loomio team, we use Loomio extensively, of course, but combined with Slack, Trello, Github Issues, Google Docs, HackMD, video chat, and other tools.

I would suggest we settle on a set of tools, and then put links to them all in the Loomio group description. That way, there's one central place you can find everything, but you can use whatever tool is best for the job you're trying to do at that time.

I completely understand people's desire to use open-source values-aligned tools. However, unless someone is immediately and credibly stepping up to set it up, host it, and onboard everyone, then it's better to just use whatever tools are easy and everyone is familiar with to get the momentum going (Slack, Trello, etc). Otherwise this turns into a massively distracting bike shed conversation.

John, that's done (and you can take your email down if you want), and invite Alanna (I'm guessing you know each other ;) )

@alanna - do you think that Loomio would be up for giving the group an upgrade for Slack integration etc.

And I favour getting a Trello board started for the group - is this something you would be up for making a proposal and following through on?

Lastly, there is a discussion on slack at #website - about the whole hosting situation. Be good to get your input.

Yes we can help out with Slack integration if you all want it :)

That'd be great:) Our Slack is buytwitter.slack.com

Can you send me an invite to the slack please? alanna@loomio.org

Done.

me to - priscillacgrim@gmail.com

Also a slack invitation for me please:)

One advice regarding infrastructure, along @alanna's lines: If you want this initiative (which I really sympathize with, as I've written about here) to really pick up mainstream traction, than you should definitely build a communication infrastructure on mainstream channels. That is: obv Twitter, Facebook and stick with popular solutions even for project management and the likes. The same applies to an eventual crowdfunding mechanism - if there is any way in which one can setup a Kickstarter under legal terms (is there a workaround for legal issues?), this would be the way to go.

If you want to win over some tech leaders as I read in another thread, than make it as easy as possible to join. Don't be ideological because any barrier lessens your potential reach. This initiative would obv. have to gain viral traction asap as Twitter is in serious talks with proper bidders. Thus, any friction whatsoever is going to be counter-productive.

If you want to invite me to slack: me@thomaseuler.de (though I'm not sure how much time I can contribute; I do have some ideas though I'd like to share)

Agree very much with Alanna's point about using available working tools rather than slow momentum to use more pure tools.

I'll share something I wrote in another thread which belongs in this one I think:

One technique I've often used in contexts like these is to create a google slideshow which is primarily internally focused, which organises all of our strategic thinking so far. Simple slides like:

• what is the original idea and background?
• who is here?
• who is leading?
• what key questions are emerging?
• what's next?

The slideshow format keeps the information modular and visual, and easily rearrangeable.

This material can then be repurposed for more highly polished external slideshows and other messaging.

Is there someone who enjoys keeping information organised that might lead on this or something like this?

-H

@samtoland Any way to allow people to join the slack without being invited? Seems inefficient.

See #website on slack. We need a site, and a dev to code the auto-invite.

There is a bot service (from a third-party) but would need a proposal (as I can't vouch for the security of it).

Chat Tools: also consider http://riot.im which is like Slack (but fully open source) but also allows people to operate with their preferred chat clients such as IRC etc.

I'm not an expert on riot.im but very impressed with it having signed up a couple of weeks ago at the suggestion of an outreach guy at MaidSafe - where we have been using Slack for some time, but not liking it being closed source / commercial.

I'm not an expert, but was able to link it to an IRC channel that I use very easily, so now I have my Slack channels and IRC channels together in one messenger interface, which is fully open source. :-). So riot.im is not either/or, but a way to pull the takeovertwitter slack channel together with other Slack / IRC etc channels you use.

Thanks for that Mark - looks more feasible than mattermost - would you be able to get over to the #website channel on Slack and discuss?

We are planning a proposal for lander and slack auto-invite - but if the skills are there to pull what you are talking about together - great! :)

Add chuhistory@gmail.com plz :)

Can I please get a slack invite at wm@njyo.net? Thanks!

since it might have gotten lost in my reply: slack invite to me@thomaseuler.de would be great. Thx! :)

Fyi - https://gitter.im is a great chat service that syncs with Github.

We can set up Slack auto-invite on the internetofownership site but I'll need to work with an admin of that Slack group to get it done. @ntnsndr are you an admin on the slack?

Two WP plugins that can do this:
https://wordpress.org/plugins/formidable-to-slack/
https://wordpress.org/plugins/lazy-invitation/

@samtoland Maybe we have sufficient consensus to move on this?

Also, what do we need to do to make it possible for people to sign themselves up on Slack? I'd like to add instructions to this temporary on-boarding page.

Slack/Loomio integration has been set up. See the #loomio channel on the slack if you want to get Loomio updates that way.

I'm happy that a consensus exists to make @ntnsndr a Slack admin.

Me too please! - karun777@gmail.com

Thanks :)

done

Please add me to slack - mel@abilitymate.com
@ntnsndr @samtoland Thanks

done!

Please add johnny.haeusler@tincon.org – thanks!

Please add rosendimov@iypf.org , thank you!

Please add nanoharsha@gmail.com, keenly following the discussion from India, and trying to understand and involve where I can. Do let me know if you want to mobilise the community here !!

I'm excited about the idea of buying/owning twitter and would like to join you guys on slack :) daniel@klickreflex.de

Thanks to @devin3, I've just added an auto-invite tool for Slack here:
http://internetofownership.net/2016/10/04/a-guide-to-buytwitter/

@ntnsndr i would post details of the auto-invite to the homepage for loomio.

Automation is the bomb! :)

As we agree tools it would be great to keep the Loomio group description up to date with links to them, so people arriving can onboard themselves.

What about Trello? When decisions are made we could track tasks there, also events, interviews with journalists etc

I can offer to use https://www.app.timefounder.com as a open platform for setup a open value accounting & project management platform for tracking all value contributions from all contributors. We are in alpha version but with your feedback we could keep on improoving the platform

Any news on the Slack auto-add landing page?

@whit537 can you assist in the setting up of a Loomio sub-group? :)

I'll set it up if you can find me a good picture ;) maybe we can test if Loomio does fractal GIFs :P