Expense Submissions
Matthew Cropp
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A thread for expenses to be submitted and voted on by the Finance working group.
Nathan Schneider Mon 16 Aug 2021 5:54PM
Nathan Schneider Tue 3 Aug 2021 5:03AM
Approved, with discussion and details in the comments. https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/46793
Nathan Schneider Tue 3 Aug 2021 3:51AM
@Matt Noyes Can you link to the policy that backs up this expense, just for our records? It's quite a bit higher than last time we paid it.
https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/46793
Nathan Schneider Tue 29 Jun 2021 3:23PM
New approval:
Nathan Schneider Wed 26 May 2021 3:19PM
Nathan Schneider Mon 26 Apr 2021 3:09PM
Nathan Schneider Thu 18 Mar 2021 4:58PM
Nathan Schneider Mon 15 Feb 2021 8:10PM
New approval: https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/34038
Nathan Schneider Mon 1 Feb 2021 5:19PM
Done!
Matt Noyes Mon 1 Feb 2021 12:02AM
https://www.loomio.org/p/JQEUYswo/let-s-join-meet-coop We did not vote on making any additional contribution to Meet.Coop.
Nathan Schneider Sun 31 Jan 2021 10:52PM
Thanks, @Matt Noyes. Can you link the relevant decision? I can't seem to find it.
There's also an optional fee to OC for this kind of payment. Was there any approval to pay that?
Matt Noyes Sun 31 Jan 2021 4:38AM
Yes. We voted to join and pay that monthly rate for three months, then decide if we want to continue.
Nathan Schneider Sun 31 Jan 2021 3:17AM
Okay, so we're contributing directly to their OpenCollective account? And it's true that the 103 GBP fee is *monthly*?
Matt Noyes Sat 30 Jan 2021 5:07AM
Social.Coop voted to join Meet.Coop, so we need to make a payment as a multi-user member. Thanks for taking care of this. https://opencollective.com/meet-coop/contribute/multi-user-member-19219/checkout
Nathan Schneider Tue 26 Jan 2021 6:06PM
Nathan Schneider Tue 12 Jan 2021 5:02PM
Nathan Schneider Tue 1 Dec 2020 5:02AM
Nathan Schneider Sun 15 Nov 2020 11:22PM
Nathan Schneider Sun 8 Nov 2020 11:40PM
New approval: https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/27733
Nathan Schneider Thu 15 Oct 2020 3:28PM
Nathan Schneider Tue 15 Sep 2020 4:24PM
Nathan Schneider Sun 6 Sep 2020 8:30PM
Just paid Ops Team compensation: https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/24785
Nathan Schneider Sun 16 Aug 2020 8:11PM
Just approved: £418.00 to @matthewcropp
https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/23735
Nathan Schneider Sat 15 Aug 2020 4:40PM
Two new expenses paid to @nicksellen:
https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/23687
https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/23688
Nathan Schneider Tue 24 Mar 2020 3:40PM
Two new expenses paid to @Nick S:
https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/14910
https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/14911
Nathan Schneider Tue 24 Mar 2020 3:40PM
Now paid.
Nick Sellen Fri 6 Mar 2020 2:05PM
thanks, although the first is still shown as pending (https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/14302)
Nathan Schneider Mon 2 Mar 2020 4:05AM
Just approved 2 $120 payments for tech work in January and February to @Nick Sellen:
https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/14302
https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/14303
Nathan Schneider Mon 10 Feb 2020 4:34AM
Just approved, $300 to @Matt Noyes for "On Call" work.
Nathan Schneider Mon 3 Feb 2020 9:21PM
Just approved: https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/13532 for hosting
Nathan Schneider Wed 15 Jan 2020 7:04PM
Just approved: https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/13187
Nathan Schneider Fri 15 Nov 2019 4:56PM
Just approved @Nick S 's $39 expense for hosting.
Nathan Schneider Thu 3 Oct 2019 3:58PM
Just approved @wulee's $25 expense for hosting.
Nathan Schneider Mon 16 Sep 2019 6:45PM
Just approved this expense of $39 for hosting.
Nathan Schneider Mon 9 Sep 2019 9:57PM
Just approved this expense of $25 for Digital Ocean.
Nathan Schneider Mon 12 Aug 2019 4:58AM
Just approved this expense for $240 for Ops Team.
Matthew Cropp Wed 24 Apr 2019 1:15AM
Great; thanks for wrangling that!
Nathan Schneider Tue 23 Apr 2019 10:44PM
Just requestd $98 for Social.coop domain renewal. Amount is USD equivalent of BTC sent to Enric Duran, who will make the renewal purchase.
@matthewcropp good with this?
Matthew Cropp Mon 15 Apr 2019 9:45PM
CWG Ops Team time-sheet for March
Matthew Cropp Mon 25 Mar 2019 3:19PM
The "Time Sheet" for the Community Working Group for February can be viewed here, and may be used by members to submit to open collective for reimbursement.
Poll Created Sun 10 Mar 2019 4:21PM
EXPENSE: Allocate $250 to Mayel's Hack Lab Closed Sat 16 Mar 2019 4:02PM
Approved. I will notify Mayel of the decision and move forward with the disbursement of $250 to haha.academy.
Following the unanimous approval of the straw-poll on this topic, I propose that we allocate a $250 donation to Mayel's hack lab.
Update: Mayel asked that it be directed to the non-profit he's involved in, haha.academy, so that will be the target unless any objections are raised.
Results
| Results | Option | % of points | Voters | |
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Agree | 100.0% | 3 |
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| Abstain | 0.0% | 0 | ||
| Disagree | 0.0% | 0 | ||
| Block | 0.0% | 0 | ||
| Undecided | 0% | 2 |
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3 of 5 people have participated (60%)
Nick S
Wed 6 Mar 2019 9:15PM
$250 seems okay as a token of appreciation. Obviously only a tiny fraction of the going rate for the work he did, but then no-one here is getting that, and we couldn't pay it in our current circumstances.
I'd be happy if this went directly to Mayel, unless he really wants it to go elsewhere.
Matt Noyes
Mon 4 Mar 2019 9:26PM
Can't choose a number without thinking about how many such contributions we intend to make, but no objection to $250.
Matthew Cropp
Mon 4 Mar 2019 3:04AM
I think $250 would be a meaningful gift that would not strain the co-op's finances.
Poll Created Mon 4 Mar 2019 3:04AM
Straw Poll on Making a Donation to Mayel's Hackerspace in Appreciation for his early work Closed Sun 10 Mar 2019 3:01AM
Unanimously yes, and $250 sounded good to folks, so will post the binding proposal now.
In a recent discussion of our development of compensated roles for the co-op, Mayel, who was a cofounder who departed in the fall, tooted the following:
"I wish the co-op had organized a lot earlier to compensate for the huge amount of labor that went into its early days.
For my part, being broke at the time, I could really have used the support in order to avoid burn-out, but if you ever want to make a gesture I'd now happily accept a donation to my local hacklab instead." Full Thread
As such, in this straw poll, please indicate whether you would support donating to his hacklab in appreciation for his early efforts, and please indicate the amount you think would be appropriate in the comment. If a majority support this, I'll either post a proposal immediately thereafter if there seems to be a rough consensus in the comments, or post a range poll with the highest and lowest proposed numbers as the boundaries.
For the financial context of the co-op, we currently have $6,122 in the Opencollective, are taking in ~$411 per month, and will be operating on an approximately break-even basis should the Tech WG ops team budget be approved.
Results
| Results | Option | % of points | Voters | |
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Agree | 100.0% | 7 |
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| Abstain | 0.0% | 0 | ||
| Disagree | 0.0% | 0 | ||
| Block | 0.0% | 0 | ||
| Undecided | 0% | 1 |
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7 of 8 people have participated (87%)
Matthew Cropp Mon 11 Feb 2019 5:29PM
At the CWG Ops Team yesterday we approved the comp expenses for January and February, which are attached in to this post as PDFs. Members of the WG may use these PDFs as receipts when submitting for their portion from Open Collective.
Nathan Schneider Mon 21 Jan 2019 4:45AM
Just approved a bunch of Loomio-related stuff from @matthewcropp:
https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/6561
https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/6562
https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/6563
https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/6564
https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/6565
Nick S Wed 26 May 2021 10:20AM
Nick S Mon 26 Apr 2021 2:32PM
Nick S Thu 18 Mar 2021 11:15AM
Nick S Mon 15 Feb 2021 7:56PM
Nick S Tue 26 Jan 2021 4:19PM
£25 for Jan 2021 https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/32534
Nick S Tue 12 Jan 2021 10:48AM
£25 for Dec 2020 https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/31654
Nick S Sun 15 Nov 2020 7:28PM
Nick S Thu 15 Oct 2020 2:13PM
$50 for October https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/26436
Still getting admonished by DO for not paying enough so paying at least twice the amount outstanding. Asking tech group if anyone can help trimming the media storage in use.
Nick S Tue 15 Sep 2020 10:00AM
$30 for Sept 2020 https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/25112
No one claims droplet; going to suspend then shut off
Nick S Sat 15 Aug 2020 11:50AM
$30 for https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/23688
Expense has increased due to a droplet running for the last few months.
Nick S Wed 15 Jul 2020 3:01PM
$20 for July 2020 https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/22100
Nick S Tue 16 Jun 2020 3:48PM
$15 for June https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/20408
Nick S Fri 22 May 2020 2:57PM
Nathan Schneider Tue 28 Apr 2020 4:14PM
Approved.
Nick S Tue 28 Apr 2020 10:02AM
$25 for April https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/16940
Nick S Tue 24 Mar 2020 11:14AM
extra $10 for March 2020, just to try to synch with Hetzner https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/14911
Nathan Schneider Tue 25 Feb 2020 6:12PM
Approved
Nick S Tue 25 Feb 2020 4:12PM
$25 to Digital Ocean for March 2020 (including some vm usage) https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/14154
Nick S Mon 3 Feb 2020 2:06PM
$10 to Digital Ocean for February 2020 https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/13532
Nick S Thu 2 Jan 2020 12:47PM
$15 to Digital Ocean for January 2020 https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/12768
Nick S Sun 15 Dec 2019 10:44AM
$50 to Digital Ocean. We've been testing backups on a virtual machine which has incurred about $35 over the last week, so this covers that plus some padding for the near future. VM should be shut down soon. https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/12397
Nathan Schneider Fri 6 Dec 2019 6:19PM
Approved!
Nick S Fri 6 Dec 2019 10:39AM
$10 to Digital Ocean for December - expense seems to have gone down significantly now the backups are pruned.
Nathan Schneider Thu 31 Oct 2019 3:42PM
Approved.
Nick S Thu 31 Oct 2019 2:09PM
Ditto for October/November, $25 again because still need to prune https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/11257
Nick S Thu 3 Oct 2019 11:41AM
Ditto for October 2019, $25 this time. I am going to prune the back ups, I think these have been mounting up. https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/10519
Nick S Mon 9 Sep 2019 12:52PM
Ditto for September 2019 https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/9977
Nick S Thu 22 Aug 2019 1:16PM
Ditto for August 2019 https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/9698
Nathan Schneider Thu 1 Aug 2019 3:36PM
Approved, thanks!
Nick S Thu 1 Aug 2019 9:35AM
Another $20 paid last week, claiming now I'm back from holiday. We seems to be using credit up more rapidly (on media storage? I've not being using droplets since last payment) Trying to add a bit of a buffer, will need to keep an eye on this.
https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/9322
Nick S Fri 12 Jul 2019 10:16AM
Early top up, because ~$5 used running a droplet for some Mastodon upgrade research/tests https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/8979
Nick S Tue 2 Jul 2019 9:38AM
Ditto for July 2019 https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/8766
Nick S Wed 5 Jun 2019 11:07PM
Ditto for June 2019 https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/8383
Nick S Wed 15 May 2019 11:19AM
Ditto for May 2019 https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/8067
Nick S Thu 18 Apr 2019 7:39AM
Ditto for April 2019 https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/7705
Nick S Wed 27 Mar 2019 10:39AM
Ditto for March 2019 https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/7362
Nick S Mon 18 Feb 2019 1:06PM
Ditto for February 2019: https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/6824
Nathan Schneider Fri 18 Jan 2019 5:43AM
Approved.
Nick S Wed 16 Jan 2019 9:42PM
Ditto for January 2019: https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/6531
Nathan Schneider Thu 20 Dec 2018 6:18PM
Approved.
Nick S Thu 20 Dec 2018 4:28PM
Ditto for December 2018: https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/6294
Nathan Schneider Tue 20 Nov 2018 4:33AM
Nick S Mon 19 Nov 2018 5:28PM
Another Digital Ocean account top-up of $10: https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/5807
Nathan Schneider Sun 14 Oct 2018 5:03PM
Okay—approving now! Thanks for all your work.
Nick S Sun 14 Oct 2018 10:48AM
I just submitted two expenses, totalling $15, for credit paid into our new Digital Ocean account, which we opened to allow us to migrate our media off the Dreamobjects storage @victormatekole was running on our behalf. This migration was a coincidental requirement which happened to coincide with our server migration.
See https://git.coop/social.coop/tech/operations/issues/21
This also means social.coop now manage this directly, although Victor may need to submit a final expense for our Dreamobject storage.
Going forward, this storage will also be used for storing database backups, when we get that running, and we may also use "droplet" VMs to support our other operations. A disposable VM, now decomissioned, was used to accelerate the migration be providing a transfer point physically close to the destination storage cluster.
Costs for running this require up-front credit, but I estimate should cost around $5-$10/month.
Nathan Schneider Sun 14 Oct 2018 5:02PM
Okay, thanks. Haven't seen it yet.
Nick S Tue 9 Oct 2018 11:36AM
Just a heads up: Mayel kindly granted us an extension for a month, to complete the migration from his server (which is now essentially done, some cleanup required). I think he's already claimed an expense for this extra month server fee, but if not you should expect one.
Nick S Tue 29 Jun 2021 2:34PM
Nick S Wed 26 May 2021 10:20AM
Nick S Mon 26 Apr 2021 2:32PM
Nick S Thu 18 Mar 2021 11:15AM
Nick S Mon 15 Feb 2021 7:53PM
Nick S Tue 26 Jan 2021 4:20PM
Nick S Tue 12 Jan 2021 10:50AM
Nick S Sun 15 Nov 2020 7:29PM
November 2020 https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/26435
Nick S Thu 15 Oct 2020 2:14PM
October 2020 https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/26435
Nick S Tue 15 Sep 2020 10:00AM
September 2020 https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/25115
Nick S Sat 15 Aug 2020 11:39AM
Nick S Wed 15 Jul 2020 2:54PM
Nick S Tue 16 Jun 2020 3:50PM
Nick S Wed 20 May 2020 2:41PM
Nathan Schneider Tue 28 Apr 2020 4:14PM
Approved
Nick S Tue 28 Apr 2020 9:41AM
Nick S Tue 24 Mar 2020 11:06AM
Ditto for March 2020 https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/14910
Nathan Schneider Tue 25 Feb 2020 6:12PM
Approved
Nick S Tue 25 Feb 2020 4:13PM
Ditto for February 2020 https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/14155
Nick S Wed 15 Jan 2020 5:09PM
Ditto for January 2020 https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/13187
Nick S Sun 15 Dec 2019 11:34AM
Ditto for December 2019 https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/12398
Nick S Fri 15 Nov 2019 3:52PM
Ditto for November 2019 https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/11673
Nathan Schneider Tue 29 Oct 2019 4:21PM
Nick S Tue 29 Oct 2019 11:32AM
Ditto for October 2019 https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/11205
Nick S Mon 16 Sep 2019 3:24PM
Ditto for September 2019 https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/10108
Nick S Thu 22 Aug 2019 1:21PM
Ditto for August 2019 https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/9699
Nick S Thu 1 Aug 2019 9:30AM
Ditto for July 2019 https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/9321
(Might have fluffed the date, paid last week whilst on holiday, meant to set it to that on expense now I'm back but looks like I might have put it in the future. This aspect seems uneditable.)
Nick S Sat 15 Jun 2019 9:38PM
Ditto for June 2019 https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/8507
Nick S Wed 15 May 2019 11:18AM
Ditto for May 2019 https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/8066
Nick S Thu 18 Apr 2019 7:39AM
Ditto for April 2019: https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/7704
Nick S Wed 27 Mar 2019 10:40AM
Ditto for March 2019: https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/7361
Nick S Mon 18 Feb 2019 1:08PM
Ditto for February 2019: https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/6823
Nick S Wed 16 Jan 2019 9:44PM
Ditto for January 2019: https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/6530
Nick S Thu 20 Dec 2018 4:30PM
Ditto for December 2018: https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/6293
Nick S Mon 19 Nov 2018 5:23PM
Ditto for November 2018: https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/5804
Nathan Schneider Mon 15 Oct 2018 6:28PM
Thanks, approving.
Nick S Mon 15 Oct 2018 8:56AM
Ditto for October 2018. https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/5320
Nathan Schneider Mon 17 Sep 2018 12:49PM
Nathan Schneider Mon 17 Sep 2018 12:49PM
Thanks. Approving now.
Nick S Mon 17 Sep 2018 11:42AM
I've just submitted an OpenCollective expense for one month hosting for our new Hetzner server, as discussed in the tech WG discussion here, where @robertbenjamin says it was pre-approved for up to $100 increments.
https://www.loomio.org/d/V8AZunq0/tech-ops-team-responsibilities-initial-documentation/50
I've paid this already via my personal paypal account, so this is for reimbursement.
Mayel de Borniol Tue 3 Jul 2018 2:02PM
I have just submitted two expenses on OpenCollective. Hopefully it was OK to not post proposals here first, as they are renewals of previously approved ongoing expenses (domain + servers). The domain renewal was originally paid by Enric, and I have reimbursed him using FairCoin.
Nathan Schneider Sat 31 Mar 2018 9:50PM
Yes, I approved one and canceled the other. Does that look right for you?
Matthew Cropp Sat 31 Mar 2018 1:33AM
@ntnsndr I've submitted the dev donation for reimbursement, but didn't see my submission immediately show up, so submitted again. So, if duplicates show up, please discard one.
Mayel de Borniol Tue 28 Nov 2017 9:47PM
Please count me as agreed on the Loomio expense, with the amendment
Matthew Cropp Sat 25 Nov 2017 2:56AM
Yes, that works for me - so amended to "ongoing"
Nathan Schneider Fri 24 Nov 2017 11:18PM
Re: @mayel's concern, could we change the word to "ongoing" or "indefinite," to make clear the option for stopping it?
Mayel de Borniol
Fri 24 Nov 2017 3:17PM
permanent is a big word...
Poll Created Wed 22 Nov 2017 9:43PM
Make our $5/month Loomio Gold subscription permanent Closed Tue 28 Nov 2017 9:37PM
Original: We previously approved a 4 month trial period for Loomio gold, and I just received the invoice for the 4th month's payment, so I figured I'd put forward a proposal to make our subscription a permanent recurring cost of $5/mo.
Amendment the word "permanent" changed to "ongoing" per Nathan's suggestion.
Amended: We previously approved a 4 month trial period for Loomio gold, and I just received the invoice for the 4th month's payment, so I figured I'd put forward a proposal to make our subscription an ongoing recurring cost of $5/mo.
Results
| Results | Option | % of points | Voters | |
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Agree | 66.7% | 2 |
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| Abstain | 33.3% | 1 |
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| Disagree | 0.0% | 0 | ||
| Block | 0.0% | 0 | ||
| Undecided | 0% | 2 |
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3 of 5 people have participated (60%)
Matthew Cropp Sat 22 Jul 2017 8:01PM
Just signed us up; we should be getting a socialcoop subdomain soon, too... :)
Thomas Beckett
Mon 17 Jul 2017 6:59PM
I will contribute personally as soon as I can get my work/life back under control.
Poll Created Thu 13 Jul 2017 10:23PM
Use the allocated $20 for 4 mo of Loomio Gold Closed Wed 19 Jul 2017 11:09PM
I will move forward with signing us up for Loomio Gold
In the time since we approved the $20 donation to Loomio, they changed around their model a bit, and I could no longer find a spot on the website to donate. As part of the change, they mentioned that they are offering the paid version for $5/mo to grassroots groups, so I'd like to propose that we sign up for Loomio Gold for 4 months, at the end of which we can evaluate whether we want to maintain paid membership.
Results
| Results | Option | % of points | Voters | |
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Agree | 100.0% | 5 |
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| Abstain | 0.0% | 0 | ||
| Disagree | 0.0% | 0 | ||
| Block | 0.0% | 0 | ||
| Undecided | 0% | 16 |
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5 of 21 people have participated (23%)
Michele Kipiel Thu 13 Jul 2017 8:38AM
This makes perfect sense to me. Looking forward to the vote.
Mayel de Borniol Thu 13 Jul 2017 7:20AM
I'd say take the $20 we already allocated to pay for the $5 subscription, and plan to make another proposal before the 4 months are up about whether we should continue it.
Matthew Cropp Thu 13 Jul 2017 4:25AM
Alright, funny story. I broke out my card tonight to make the Loomio donation and submit for reimbursement, but I cannot for the life of me find the Loomio donation page since the update that corresponded to the email I imagined most of us received. Basically, they've locked down things like the creation of subgroups, which was always listed as a paid feature, but free users could do it anyways.
In any case, in the email announcement, they mentioned that grass-roots projects can sign up for the paid version for $5/month if we do so with the provided coupon code by August 15. I'm thinking that's well within our budget and we we should do that, with the $20 already allocated used to pay for the first 4 months. I will turn this into a proposal soon, barring any strong immediate objections...
Sam Toland
Wed 5 Jul 2017 2:41PM
I'm happy to go with the consensus on this - I think it's a pretty small amount. It's a nice gesture, but I would be equally comfortable with waiting until we have enough cashflow to justify a subscription.
Nathan Schneider
Fri 30 Jun 2017 2:23AM
This strikes me as an excellent example of modeling cooperation among co-ops, within our means. And Loomio, I think, can be a major ally as this project develops. I also hope, too, that the workflows we're creating together will demonstrate to others how powerful Loomio + OpenCollective + Sandstorm can be for building little platform co-ops.
Poll Created Thu 29 Jun 2017 5:36PM
$20 Donation to Loomio Closed Thu 6 Jul 2017 5:00PM
While we're using the free version of Loomio, and might not be ready to upgrade to the paid subscription, it would be good to make a modest contribution to the platform's operations, so I'm proposing that we start by giving $20, and revisit the question of a subscription or another donation in a few months...
Results
| Results | Option | % of points | Voters | |
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Agree | 83.3% | 5 |
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| Abstain | 16.7% | 1 |
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| Disagree | 0.0% | 0 | ||
| Block | 0.0% | 0 | ||
| Undecided | 0% | 15 |
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6 of 21 people have participated (28%)
Matthew Cropp Thu 29 Jun 2017 5:34PM
@mayel valid points; I'll withdraw my proposal and resubmit as a $20 initial donation, and we can revisit subscribing at a later date.
As to compensating back-end labor, have you given thought to how that might be structured? A per version upgrade stipend? A certain number of hours of labor per month? something else?
Mayel de Borniol Wed 14 Jun 2017 8:46PM
np! just created a dot poll as well :) let me know if I missed anything and will add it
Matthew Cropp Wed 14 Jun 2017 8:34PM
TY, sorry to be a bureaucratic pain... :P
Nathan Schneider Thu 15 Jun 2017 8:30AM
I'm happy to approve the expense as soon as we have a decision in that thread. Thanks, @mayel.
Mayel de Borniol Wed 14 Jun 2017 8:22PM
That sounds reasonable. I've already made the submission to OC, but IIRC only @ntnsndr can currently approve it on there for it to go through. So I'll make a proposal in the main group now.
Matthew Cropp Wed 14 Jun 2017 8:15PM
As we've not officially adopted to bylaws as a group yet, my thinking is that it would be good to post individual expenses to the whole group for ratification until we do, simply so that everyone involved has a chance to weigh in until the division of labor is formalized. Hopefully the bylaws review meetings will move the ball forward sufficiently so the task can be explicitly delegated, but it would probably be best to err towards whole group engagement until we have passed that milestone.
Mayel de Borniol Wed 14 Jun 2017 7:53PM
In reply to your earlier question, we have $159 currently available, and an estimated annual budget of $732 (based on current contributing members only)
Mayel de Borniol Wed 14 Jun 2017 7:51PM
@matthewcropp
According to the draft bylaws, this should be it. Any member wanting to oversee expenses can join this group to do so. Of course, the larger group needs to be aware of that, and I'd assume budgeting decisions would be taken in the main group, but don't know if everyone wants to have to deal with each individual expense...
I'm about to submit the expense on OpenCollective now.
Matthew Cropp Wed 14 Jun 2017 3:54AM
So, process-wise, do we move this to the main group for ratification, or is this subgroup empowered to authorize reimbursements?
Matthew Cropp
Fri 9 Jun 2017 5:36PM
Glad to have more beefy tech capacity, and that we have enough $ flow to cover it!
Poll Created Fri 9 Jun 2017 11:13AM
New Server Expense Closed Sun 11 Jun 2017 11:02AM
All agreed for me to add a server expense on OpenCollective? for $13 x 6 months = $78 (so from June to November, inclusive)
If we need to upgrade again at any point during this period, I can then simply submit an expense for the difference.
Results
| Results | Option | % of points | Voters | |
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Agree | 100.0% | 2 |
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| Abstain | 0.0% | 0 | ||
| Disagree | 0.0% | 0 | ||
| Block | 0.0% | 0 | ||
| Undecided | 0% | 2 |
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2 of 4 people have participated (50%)
Mayel de Borniol Mon 5 Jun 2017 9:33AM
I am upgrading to a larger server now.
Matthew Cropp Mon 29 May 2017 10:03PM
That sounds good to me, Mayel - I think we should commit to new recurring expenses sequentially as we have the capacity. We're over $13/mo in pledges, so I think we should do that right off the bat, and commence the Loomio subscription ($19/mo) when we break $40/mo.
One other thing that would probably be good, perhaps as the next milestone post-Loomio subscription, would be to contribute something to the Mastodon development/er Patreon.
@ntnsndr, what is our current total monthly take from OpenCollective?
Mayel de Borniol Mon 29 May 2017 9:14PM
Thank you @matthewcropp, appreciate it.
We're going to need to upgrade the server soon anyway, as we're now using about half of both RAM and storage space available (including 6 GB of images already!). We can double the resources so we have 4GB RAM, 100GB SSD storage, and 4 CPU cores, for $13 a month.
Price wise, you can compare this with DigitalOcean, the provider most instances are using: https://www.digitalocean.com/pricing/#droplet
If it's agreed, I suggest doing one expense per quarter, for less bureaucracy.
Matthew Cropp Mon 29 May 2017 8:31PM
I'm kicking off this thread because, as people and contributions start flowing in, we should get a handle on what expenses we should budget for in the short term. My thinking is:
- A subscription, or at least a donation, to Loomio, given that we're leaning heavily on the service for our governance.
- @mayel's monthly hosting costs - he's being incredibly generous with his time right now, so we should be at least making it so social.coop is not an out of pocket cost for him.
Nathan Schneider · Mon 27 Sep 2021 4:31PM
Approved Hetzner hosting bill:
https://opencollective.com/socialcoop/expenses/51230